Tuesday, November 17, 2009

How do you feel about Clintons plan for universal healthcare?

Clinton proposes that everyone be responsible for carrying health insurance, and that she 'sees a day when showing your health insurance card will be part of a job interview'. How is this to benefit the american people and keep the insurance co. and stock holders from robbing us blind?

How do you feel about Clintons plan for universal healthcare?
The healthcare issue is her 'Ace in the hole' to get people to vote for her. If she gets elected, our country will become a Socialist nation, and socialism never works. People are kept down. She we see to it that the Constitution is abolished, since she is a supported of Council of Foreign Relations (CFR).





She couldn't get healthcare into the books all those eight years her hubby was in office? What makes anyone think she will get it done this time around? No way...read between the lines, the cost of your insurance will still come out of YOUR pocket.





If you want more money in your bank account, and in your pockets, and have cheaper costs for healthcare you better look at the candidate Ron Paul, he wants to do away with the greed from the insurance companies regulating the costs of health insurance and take it back to the cost between the doctor and the patient, and the hospital and the patient - he is a OB/GYN he knows how the red tape works and how to fix this problem, and he knows how to get our shrinking dollar back to where it was so our economy won't face a recession, or a depression. He is even aware how the drug companies are pushing the new drugs down the doctors throats when it was brought to our attention that the drugs most Americans take are produced from COAL TAR! Ron Paul knows this and he doesn't like it one bit. Not only that - that saddest part of our American economy is that the US Dollar is nearly equal to the Mexican peso? How good is that! Not good at all. Ron Paul wants to make our dollar STRONG again - make our economy flourish, along with the American people too.





So, please look at Ron Paul (He is campaigning as a Republican - but is in truth a Constitutionalist - he TRULY and desperately for over 30 years now while in Congress wants to help families, children, healthcare, jobs, and to do away with Big Brother taking away every liberty which is rightfully YOURS. He can only do these things as President, not in a Congress which is controlled by corporations running our government.





For the pinnacle of her career Universal Health Care : This exchange happened the other day, some guy had the cojones to claim the Hillary Health Plan was Socialized Medicine. This triggered her usual knee - jerk response by calling him some “Right Winger“ Clinton was asked why as a candidate for president she is “still insisting” on bringing “socialized medicine” to the United States, when people are “pulling away” from similar systems in Canada and Great Britain. Worse“, the questioner said, such systems hurt rather than help poor people. Clinton answered :





“That was a string of misrepresentations about me and about the systems in other countries,” , “Number one, I have never advocated socialized medicine, and I hope all the journalists here heard that loudly and clearly because that has been a right-wing attack on me for 15 years.”





Now for all those who are afraid Government is listening to your phone calls sit back and see what Hillary wanted to do to your life if she would have had her way. This information is right out of her Universal plan and what it would consist of.





Under Clinton’s plan, you will automatically be enrolled in a government-run “health alliance.” Clinton’s plan states:





“It is the obligation of every eligible individual to enroll in a health plan. Anyone who does not meet the established deadline for enrollment automatically is enrolled in a health plan when he or she seeks medical care. Regional alliances assign patients who do not seek enrollment to a health plan; they automatically assign any newborn infant who is not enrolled through his or her parents to a plan.”





Once you are enrolled, “health-providing institutions . . . would send all patients through medical ‘gatekeepers,’ who would decide what care people really need.” Gatekeepers, I don’t know about you but that scares the s@#* out of me.





Present and future doctors will be under direct control of a new NATIONAL HEALTH BOARD. Just another government organization to keep us down and from what we need. Those who don’t obey orders can be fined, have their assets forfeited, and be imprisoned. Clinton’s plan says that “current federal authority is amended to allow forfeitures of proceeds derived from health care fraud” and “the law provides for prejudgment interest or penalties and assessments imposed by an administrative law judge‘, any doctor who doesn’t tell the government everything it wants to know about your medical history, buys services from a company the government hasn’t approved, or doesn’t open his offices to governmental inspection on demand is history.





These new “crimes” are broad enough for the government to destroy any doctor who fails to meekly obey the orders of the government. Clinton’s plan will do nothing to control most of these rising health-care costs. And it will inevitably regulate and regiment many physicians and hospitals out of existence. This means that the only way Clinton can control costs is by rationing. Rationing is a favorite Socialist pastime.





If you want proof the Hillary is a socialist, I will furnish with quotes from her own mouth - let you be the judge...








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Now that we got that out of the way, lets get some quotes from Hillary herself, speaking about the petrodollar profits. “I want to take those profits and put them into an alternative energy fund that will begin to fund alternative smart energy alternatives that will actually begin to move us toward the direction of independence.” Ok she did say “take those profits”, because i don’t want to be accused of being a so called “right winger”. What other profits does she want to take.





Ok now lets see what else she has said : “Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush’s] tax cuts may have helped you. We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”





(Hillary at a fund raising speech in San Francisco; SFGate.com 6/28/2004.) So she wants to take things away for the common good? I don’t think we need any more quotes, her socialist views speak for themselves. Now I have nothing personal against Socialists but when you are one at least have the backbone to admit it!
Reply:They may be digs to you, but I posted factual quotes on the opposing candidate. Can you honestly be content about her implementing a Gatekeeper that will direct the type of care you receive when ill? Thanks for the best answer vote, I appreciate it. Peace. Report Abuse

Reply:This is an important step in the right direction.


Many of you out there are thinking too emotionaly, with lots of you just hating the Clintons.


Get the hell over it!!!


None of you are really thinking about the fact that health care is a global issue...not just an American issue.


Most of you don't understand the "virul" world and the threats it will pose to us a species in years to come.


It would only take one nasty little strain of virus that is unknown to infect a few of us and utimately kill most of the worlds population.


I just don't understand how so many of you think that with our global population growing and at its highest ever that we can continue to treat health care the same!


This would be the tip of the Iceberg on reforming health care....universaly!!!


If we all breath the same air for free on a summers day walk, and we all get the same airborn virus....what???...only the rich survive????


How American is that?


Can we really start to think out of the box people?....please!?
Reply:The Clinton's plans are about control, whether it be healthcare, education, or social worker visits to your home to make sure your parenting skills are in alignment with "the village".





The Clintons want to run your life, and they intend to do that by taking away your personal choices and building up government power and control.
Reply:How many times have you heard that we are the only modern industrialized country that does not have universal health care?





How many times have you heard we are the richest country on the planet?





How many times have you heard we have spent a half trillion dollars on two bogus wars?





I can tell you one overriding reason I want universal health care in this country ---------- insurance forms and insurance companies. From impossibly complicated forms to denials, to slow pay, to no pay, to fighting with them to get what you thought was covered but by some convoluted loophole they said no, to just getting fuggged in the rear end as they reap huge profits.





I fail to understand why all you stupid anti universal health care nuts don't want at the very least basic care because as it stands now, 50% of all bankruptcy's are the result of medical bills, and 50% of those had medical insurance that ran out.





How fuggged up do you really want to be and how fuggged up do you want to be to yourself?





If you scream personal responsibility, well guess what, you can personal responsibility those 50% who had medical insurance that ran out to death, as they lost everything they worked for and all you do is sit there and scream bloody murder.





You people are truly inhuman. And the really sad part, is you are being inhuman to yourselves, but you don't know it.





Peace





Jim





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Reply:If I wanted Socialism I would move to a Socialist country.





Why can't the Clintons do the same?
Reply:IT SUCKS!





The socialist weasel is going after "Universal Health care part 2." It was bad last time and it's worse now. It's expensive and it will destroy health care.





EVERY time the government runs a program there are huge wastes and inefficiencies. This will happen if Hillary stupid idea is law.





Why do you think people come here from other countries for treatment? Because we don't have socialized medicine. THAT IS WHAT HITLERY IS PROPOSING!
Reply:Can we afford it? The answer is no. This will be another tax burden for the working, tax paying, legal citizens of this great country. The libs are more then happy spend money with no concept of where it is going to come from or the long term financial consequences. Another free handout with no questions asked. Another reason for a new crop of illegal aliens to invade our country and overload the system. Wake up America.
Reply:The word 'universal' just doesn't sit well with me, and I bet the Klingons would object as well.
Reply:This is the stupidest idea. Think about the other government agencies that are run by the government. They are all run into the ground. And who is going to pay for this? A lot of money is going to be needed and that will come from us. I have health insurance. It is not that hard to obtain. Oh yea that is probably why I go to work everyday. I don't sit at home expecting the government to take care of everything for me. I like the fact that I decide how my hard earned money is going to be spent. I don't know what is wrong about our health care right now. Why do people not want to pay for their health? People don't complain about paying $5 for coffee at starbucks or the fact that people who don't want to pay for their health and yet they have a cell phone or brand new car. Please let me decide what happens to my money.
Reply:It would do wonders for the country, just imagine, if you are sick, you will be treated, and the first question you hear, is NOT, and how will you be paying this account.
Reply:Clinton Takes $1 Million From Insurance Cos, Plans to Force All


Americans to Buy Private Coverage








http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/healthca...
Reply:Universal health care is one of the worst ideas in human history. Monopolies are bad, nobody disputes that. A monopoly with guns and the power to throw you in jail (government) is worse. So why would anybody want to put a government monopoly in charge of our health and lives? It's just plain dumb.





I already have insurance, why punish me because other people don't? I currently have the freedom of choice (United, Humana, Blue Cross, Aetna, etc.), why steal my freedom and force me into a government monopoly?





Universal health care is inefficient, immoral, and just plain stupid.
Reply:I don't like anything that government mandates as MANDATORY. I feel I'm losing a personal freedom
Reply:It may not be the best proposal but it is one more than the GOP is offering. Our health care system is broken. Many on both sides of the aisle have said so. It is quite obvious if one looks around outside their safe little cocoon. The Democratic Party Presidential front runners have suggested plans to help solve the health care problems. The Republicans have offered nothing. Do the Republicans want the problem to continue or get worse? It sure seems they do.
Reply:I think its a step in thinking about the healthcare problem in America. With that being said. I cant believe Mitt Romney is such a hipocrate he sponsored a similar plan in his state but I hear him on TV talking about how his plan is so different. Talk about a hipocrate.
Reply:I hate that anti-capitalistic republicans want insurance companies to steal profits off of us without advertising and selling us a decent plan. Instead insurance companies lobby and lobby and lobby some more with the money they steal from me, the 10,000 a year they take out of my income! So, this is what we get, a way for the insurance companies to still steal from me? Of course I don't like her plan, but at least she's attacking the issue.
Reply:Somebody's got to do SOMETHING about the health care crisis in this country. We are one of the richest nations in this world but yet we have people who lose their homes, their good credit, even their lives just because they don't have insurance or because the healthcare system is so freakin' corrupt that MONEY is worth more than a LIFE. How can you put a price on human life? At least universal health insurance can stop people from dying and being sick just because they don't have enough money or insurance to pay for it.


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