I've seen a lot of posts about support of the Dem nominees and the demographical breakdown of who's voting for who and why. There are several questions about why black people vote for Obama...etc. The overwhelming majority of the answers to these are like, "I don't vote for him because he's black, its because he's the best, etc." And the same for Clinton, just substitute "woman" for "black." Generally speaking of course.
It is an insult to assume that a Dem votes for ___ just because of ____ . .....right?
So here's the question.
When Obama or Clinton loses to McCain in the general election, what will the excuse be from Dems?
Too many "good ole boys" couldn't handle having a black or woman president?
Double standard...?
From the same Dem supporters who are insulted that they are being accused of voting on race or gender, will be accusing Reps, of the very same thing.....
I just want that whoever loses, that they take the loss like a man... (or woman) and not cry foul
Clinton, Obama and the race/gender card?
I really hate to say this, but Obama will be our next president ! Why,,,,,because the news media is totally in the tank for this guy ! Just turn on any news station and you will see this, he is getting ten to one coverage over Clinton, and when the media is through beating Clinton up, they will turn on McCain !
Reply:people think in race are you, are in the past. We are not in 1965. We have different challenges: one of them is to be united.
Reply:I'm democrat and I'm tired to listen Obama's and Clinton's
high school BS
I'm going to vote for McCain as a punishment
for the Dem. Candidates..
we are in war and McCain is the only one to understand
what it's mean come back home from the combat zone
and I believe he will do everything to help our Soldiers
to get back too a normal life for the rest is only politics
Reply:After Bush destroyed a country and went against his promise to not get involved in overthrowing a government, I thought enough people would be mad and the Republicans will lose the next presidential election.
But now...the Republicans will win the ticket again if Obama wins the nomination. America is not willing, ready or able to let a black man become the next president.
I am not prejiduced, just stating the facts.
So, Mc Pain will be the next president, unless Hillary wins. Then indeed history will be made.
Does anyone really think a black man could win the election when the big bucks will go with the Republicans?
I don't think so....
Reply:im a republican but i do like obama and will be voting for him
Reply:I t could be that its already a done deal. The REPUBLICAN$ strategy is , they won`t elect black,-they won`t elect a woman! so what`s that leave? WAKE UP AMERICA!!
Reply:i know. thats why I wish Al Gore were in it
Reply:i'd support both clinton and obama.. but i can only choose one.. why is that ur making this negative.. what about if mccain loses, will he take it like a man????? i understand that this is a first but my golly give me a break already
Reply:The Dem will have know one to blame but themselves. They will be so tried out from their fight, that McCain will just walk away with the title.
Reply:Your logic is inherently flawed.
So when I vote for McCain, my vote as a *woman* for a *man* counts for nothing -- Afterall, its just *white* voting for *white,* right? Wrong -- afterall, if I can marry a person of color, I can sure vote for one.
Reply:I'm a Obama supporter but if he looses and Clinton is the nominee I'd support her. Mccain is too much of a right-wing nutjob to even think about voting for.
Saturday, November 19, 2011
Why does Michelle Obama pander to black people?
Barack always tries to steer clear of the race issue (although his campaign loves to play it up and then blame the Clinton campaign for playing the race card). But Michelle always gets up in front of black people and stirs their racial pride as a way of getting them to vote for Barack. She overtly plays the race card, but no one critcizes her fr pandering to black folks. Why?
Why does Michelle Obama pander to black people?
Because just like Bill Clinton, spouses are used to do the dirty work that the actual candidate can't do. Only difference between Michelle and Bill in terms of this, is that Bill gets more media attention when he speaks. But Barack has pandered to the Black population before.
No media outlet wants to target Michelle on that. They will look racist if they do.
Reply:she's a democrat...
Reply:The candidate's spouses always get a little more leeway. Look at what Bill says and does for Hillary?
Reply:because her last name is not clinton. the media is responsible for brain-washing black americans into believing that the clintons are the only racists people in america. the sad thing about it is the majority of us believe it.
whenever black america need the media to take a stand and use their voice to speak out about racism, they pretend it doesn't exist.
sorry media, your "let's all join together and hate the clintons" tactics are not working for me.
HILLARY CLINTON in 2008!!!!!!!!
Reply:- Why do the republicons are so desperate to create "division" in the democratic field to reign and win election with their strategy of "politic of fear"?
- Why the republicons think they could succeed with their "racist card" to win election by accusing others?
It's not gonna be the same as you did in the last election, and you could feel it with those two great candidates Clinton and Obama who gonna make "history" in the American society ...
Keep trying and distracting people's mind with the real facts: "recession in our economy, poverty in its all form and debt for us and our children before they even born" ...
Many republicans see and support their party before they stand and value their country; what a shame!
Reply:Because it's impossible for Barack to do this himself without generating huge controversy within the non-black communities. He wants to solidify his support for the black vote, he cannot do this himself, and his wife certainly appears more in touch with the black community anyhow.
It really makes sense to do things this way, and it's tough to criticize a black woman for rallying black voters. Clinton has already been burned on the race issue. This hurts her especially due to Bill's credentials within the black community, and her hopes of riding his coattails there being dashed.
Reply:To gain votes its no different than Huckabee pandering to the evangelists.
Reply:Because they are fighting for the black vote. Simple enough. Barack himself panders in this area when he gives speeches using the cadence of a black preacher when he doesn't ever talk like that in real life. But the Clintons are looking for the black vote too, they counted on it too much and now have to fight for it. I know we're supposed to say that race doesn't matter, but clearly it does. Look at South Carolina.
Reply:Because he does not stand a chance of getting elected.
Reply:Um, before you post, why don't you check out what parties/ groups/conventions have invited Michelle Obama to speak? I assume that you haven't done any checking on this, all the speaking engagements on her calender, because she does not "always get in front of black people".
You sound like a racist troll here.
Reply:Pandering? How silly. Do you know what it means?
Who do you want her to play up to Lithuanians?
Hillary Clinton switches her accent on and off according to where she is. Why is she pandering to Northerners today and Southerners tomorrow?
Reply:she wants them to vote for her husband.
Nintendo Wii
Why does Michelle Obama pander to black people?
Because just like Bill Clinton, spouses are used to do the dirty work that the actual candidate can't do. Only difference between Michelle and Bill in terms of this, is that Bill gets more media attention when he speaks. But Barack has pandered to the Black population before.
No media outlet wants to target Michelle on that. They will look racist if they do.
Reply:she's a democrat...
Reply:The candidate's spouses always get a little more leeway. Look at what Bill says and does for Hillary?
Reply:because her last name is not clinton. the media is responsible for brain-washing black americans into believing that the clintons are the only racists people in america. the sad thing about it is the majority of us believe it.
whenever black america need the media to take a stand and use their voice to speak out about racism, they pretend it doesn't exist.
sorry media, your "let's all join together and hate the clintons" tactics are not working for me.
HILLARY CLINTON in 2008!!!!!!!!
Reply:- Why do the republicons are so desperate to create "division" in the democratic field to reign and win election with their strategy of "politic of fear"?
- Why the republicons think they could succeed with their "racist card" to win election by accusing others?
It's not gonna be the same as you did in the last election, and you could feel it with those two great candidates Clinton and Obama who gonna make "history" in the American society ...
Keep trying and distracting people's mind with the real facts: "recession in our economy, poverty in its all form and debt for us and our children before they even born" ...
Many republicans see and support their party before they stand and value their country; what a shame!
Reply:Because it's impossible for Barack to do this himself without generating huge controversy within the non-black communities. He wants to solidify his support for the black vote, he cannot do this himself, and his wife certainly appears more in touch with the black community anyhow.
It really makes sense to do things this way, and it's tough to criticize a black woman for rallying black voters. Clinton has already been burned on the race issue. This hurts her especially due to Bill's credentials within the black community, and her hopes of riding his coattails there being dashed.
Reply:To gain votes its no different than Huckabee pandering to the evangelists.
Reply:Because they are fighting for the black vote. Simple enough. Barack himself panders in this area when he gives speeches using the cadence of a black preacher when he doesn't ever talk like that in real life. But the Clintons are looking for the black vote too, they counted on it too much and now have to fight for it. I know we're supposed to say that race doesn't matter, but clearly it does. Look at South Carolina.
Reply:Because he does not stand a chance of getting elected.
Reply:Um, before you post, why don't you check out what parties/ groups/conventions have invited Michelle Obama to speak? I assume that you haven't done any checking on this, all the speaking engagements on her calender, because she does not "always get in front of black people".
You sound like a racist troll here.
Reply:Pandering? How silly. Do you know what it means?
Who do you want her to play up to Lithuanians?
Hillary Clinton switches her accent on and off according to where she is. Why is she pandering to Northerners today and Southerners tomorrow?
Reply:she wants them to vote for her husband.
Nintendo Wii
Looks like a lot of Republican voters are voting for Obama to keep Clinton out of office. Is this fair?
I think it is too bad that Hillary will likely lose the presidency because Republicans are crossing over to vote against her, especially in Texas. Ohio also has an open primary, so I see the same thing happening here. Though I like Obama, the cards really seem stacked against Clinton right now. What I fear is that the Republican strategy will work. Hillary supporters will be pissed and vote McCain to spite Obama. Looks like this election could play right into Republicans hands, if Hillary and Obama don't come up with a plan to keep this from happening. That's right. I think Obama needs to help Hillary out. Hillary needs to help Obama out. The wisest thing for either one of them to do is start thinking about a president and vice president strategy. All we are doing now is dividing the democratic party, and that is the last thing we need right now. I voted for Obama, but if I were in Texas, I'd be voting Hillary. I don't like seeing someone get pummeled unfairly. Go Dems!!!!
Looks like a lot of Republican voters are voting for Obama to keep Clinton out of office. Is this fair?
Anything that moves Clinton closer to the green grass of home and away from the white house is fine with me. She continues to make promises that everyone with an IQ over 50 knows are never going to be met. She will give, give, give but no mention of where the funding will come from to do all that giving. It is an insult for her to continue to make statements that are so far from the truth.
Reply:This is baloney. You don't know one single registered Republican who is going to register as a Democrat to vote for Barack. Not one. I'll bet you a dollar you can't find a single verifiable instance. The people who keep saying this certainly wouldn't do it themselves.
Reply:With respect, I think you are misreading the situation. The Republicans Obama is getting are not voting for Obama so McCain will have an easier candidate than Hillary, they are voting for him because they like him and are rejecting the status quo. My Dad is one of those Obama Republicans.
Several political pundits have publically stated on CNN, FOX, and MSNBC that Obama is a much tougher candidate for McCain because both candidates pull from the independent crowd and McCain has issues with his conservative base.
Hillary running would get evangelicals out in numbers voting against her (for McCain). There is a real question whether McCain will be able to hold on to his independent base and win back the Evengelicals vs. Obama. Obama has vowed not to concede the Evangelicals and McCain has been dogged about not giving the Evangelicals any concessions.
Bush has a 28% approval rate, but got like 52% of the vote in the last election. That means that 24% of people who voted republican hate bush's policies and probably have a horrible case of buyers remorse. McCain is running on those policies that have made these voters dislike Bush. That won't help him with the indy crowd he is fighting Obama over.
Hillary's problems are her own. She would have had real problems in the general election because Republicans and Independents as a whole do not like her--- only Dems really like her. In the Dem race it has allowed Obama to build support among Independents to outvote Hillary's Dem base.
Hillary and Bill have pissed off a lot of Obama Independent supporters to the point that we would never vote for her this time. We need time to forget how much we dislike her. Obama can count on the rank and file Dems voting for him over McCain running on Bush's policies as the Dem candidate so he doesn't really need her. She also makes red and swing states redder, so she is probably not on Obama's list.
Hillary on the other hand with a negative rating that has been tracked between 46 and 58% in the last year needs a VP who can change peoples minds and make people who don't like her vote for her ticket. Her people think Obama could do that for her, but I disagree. I think a great deal of Obama's appeal is that he is not a tradional politician like Hillary or McCain. I think his support would evaporate as second fiddle to Hillary. Gov. Richardson might be the rare VP candidate who could fill Hillary's needs. That said, I think Hillary will not win Texas, so this is a little moot.
Reply:Obama will be easier to beat in the general election. That is why they don't want Hillary in the general election. The world leaders love both of the Clintons. The economy was good and the budget balanced under Bill. And he has had his trying moments during attacks (like the U.S. Cole attack). So it would be harder for McCain to attack Hillary then a nobody like Obama with no experience, and he hasn't sat on any major committee, and he missed half the votes on issues, and did not work bi-partisanly when he had a chance. Yet he says he wants to unite this country and can handle all the major problems facing us nationally and globally. I don't think so....
Reply:I'm all choked up.
Reply:ROFLMAOPMP ... You MUST be JOKING !!! RIGHT !!?!?!
Fear?? ... what a JOKE !!!
We just DO NOT LIKE Billary !!
Reply:That's why we have superdelegates.
Reply:You could have restricted your primaries to Democrats Only but chose not too. Next time don't wait till the last minute to change the rules, which by then will be known universally as Pulling a Hillary
Reply:We did it in VA and it worked great. Texas Rep vote for Obama will give Obama the win easy. Clinton knows it and is trying to hold Ohio, which will make no difference.
Reply:Hillary Clinton is the one who needs to change her tune. From the beginning, her arrogance and pandering nature has made her look bad. The smear campaign her supporter are currently throwing against Obama is making them look even worse - THAT is why people are voting against her at any cost.
It's my vote and I can do with it what I want. I am a disillusioned republican voter who is voting for Obama and will be voting for McCain if Clinton wins the nomination.
Reply:Don't forget that the Florida decision to move the primary up and accept the disipline from the Democratic National Party was made by a Republican Governor and republican state legislature where Hillary Clinton is hugely popular.
Republican's are brilliant there is a reason why the only Democratic Presidents in the last 40 years have been Carter and Clinton and Clinton was due to Ross Perot in 92'.
Reply:A vote for Obama in the primaries is a vote for McCain in the General. The Republicans have repeatedly stated 'Clinton is formidable."
There is a solution: Clinton for Pres., Obama for VP... then later, Obama for Pres, Michelle for VP... and the cycle continues. However, people are voting with emotion, not rationale. All's fair in campaigns... note how Obama is condemning the 3AM ad---he stated it was fear tactics....then he copied it. That kind of 'Change' , that kind of Judgement won't be what I vote for.
Reply:Your assumptions are not true.
Most Obama supporters are Democrats who see Hillary for what she really is - a fake, elitist, career-politician who will say and do anything she feels is convenient at the moment in order to ascend to power.
The "cross-over" effect is exaggerated. Those who are crossing over are doing so because they like the honesty and conviction of Senator Obama, not because they hate Hillary.
You do know that in most states, registered Republicans can't even vote on a Democratic ballot, right???
Reply:So far HUCKABEE is the choice for those not voting for McCain ...
YET............... when the nominee is picked at the Republican convention
THEN regardless of how Republicans voted..They will do everything in their might and power to assure the Democrats DO NOT get back into the White House....
Reply:I heard that the Rep. who don't like McCain are going for Hillary and some (going for McCain in Texas) are voting for Hillary just to keep things interesting since its obvious who will be the Republican nominee. I don't think either way is fair. People should vote for who they WANT to win. This is disappointing.
Reply:no it is sexism
Reply:Same thing happened the other way around in open primary States to bump off Romney and Thompson, thus ensuring that there were no true conservatives in the race. No matter who wins the November election it is a guaranteed victory for liberalism.
Reply:Limbaugh was saying and pushing his listeners for the opposite
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...
Reply:i;am a democrat but i don;t like clinton.she acts as if she is better then everyone else.besides we don;t need anymore clinton;s in the white house.you ask if it;s fair.it;s not fair how she is trying to destroy obama.so if the shoe fits wear it.she deserves to be booted out of the election.
Reply:Yes it is fair. A person can vote for the Democrat or Republican they would rather have as president. If this is happening then they are saying they don't want Hillary to have a chance at being president. If the Democrat nomination was already decided I would cross over and vote for the republican I would prefer rather than waste my vote on a Democrat. Just shows how many people don't like Hillary. I heard a republican say hopefully the Clintons will be gone forever. Also the Clintons are so hated by republicans that Hillary would never get anything done.
Reply:Republicans and fair election do not go together
Reply:In each state the democratic party decides on who can vote in the primaries. Consequently, in the states where the democrats allow republicans to vote, it is perfectly fair that they should do so. If some Hillary voters don't like that, instead of going nuts and voting for the republican candidate, they should ask their local democratic leaders to change the rules for next time.
Reply:You're a very intelligent person.
We need more women in the office.
The world needs a women's touch!
HILLARY 2008!
Reply:Admittedly... That is what I am doing here in Cleveland on March 4th. I have NEVER declared myself a Democrat. However, let's face it.... McCain is already the Nominee. I would rather have Obama than Clinton if The Dems do win the White House. And in my research... I've discovered that Obama, though Liberal, is really not a bad guy. Shrillary is the same ol' same ol'. We have had 2 decades of Clinton's and Bushes. It really is time for change. Now, do your homework.
Let's compare the record:
From the Library of Congress:
Hillary Clinton in her one full term(6 yrs.) and another year campaigning, has authored and passed only 20 pieces of legislation in her term of six years into law. They range from naming a courthouse after Thurgood Marshall to naming a Post Office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
Obama in his first 8 Months sponsored over 820 Bills. Introduced 233 Bills on Healthcare Reform, 125 Bills on Poverty and Public Assistance, 112 Bills on Crime Fighting, 97 Economic Bills, 60 Human Rights and Anti-Discrimination Bills, 21 Ethics Reform Bills, 6 Veterans Affairs Bills and many others. In his First Year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 Bills and co-spomsored another 427. These Include: 1) the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became Law, 2) the Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-prliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became Law, 3) the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate, 4) the 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became Law, just to name a few. In all, since he entered the Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 Bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
Why is this not being discussed heavily on the blogs? Obama supporters should be copying and pasting this all over the net and inundating all the Hillary Blogs with this. When people take a hard look... she is not a hard worker. She represents more grid lock and laziness.
This man WILL get things done. His record PROVES IT.
Pass this on to as many folks as you can this weekend. Everyone on your address books, all blogs. Get the truth out and help make things right!
Looks like a lot of Republican voters are voting for Obama to keep Clinton out of office. Is this fair?
Anything that moves Clinton closer to the green grass of home and away from the white house is fine with me. She continues to make promises that everyone with an IQ over 50 knows are never going to be met. She will give, give, give but no mention of where the funding will come from to do all that giving. It is an insult for her to continue to make statements that are so far from the truth.
Reply:This is baloney. You don't know one single registered Republican who is going to register as a Democrat to vote for Barack. Not one. I'll bet you a dollar you can't find a single verifiable instance. The people who keep saying this certainly wouldn't do it themselves.
Reply:With respect, I think you are misreading the situation. The Republicans Obama is getting are not voting for Obama so McCain will have an easier candidate than Hillary, they are voting for him because they like him and are rejecting the status quo. My Dad is one of those Obama Republicans.
Several political pundits have publically stated on CNN, FOX, and MSNBC that Obama is a much tougher candidate for McCain because both candidates pull from the independent crowd and McCain has issues with his conservative base.
Hillary running would get evangelicals out in numbers voting against her (for McCain). There is a real question whether McCain will be able to hold on to his independent base and win back the Evengelicals vs. Obama. Obama has vowed not to concede the Evangelicals and McCain has been dogged about not giving the Evangelicals any concessions.
Bush has a 28% approval rate, but got like 52% of the vote in the last election. That means that 24% of people who voted republican hate bush's policies and probably have a horrible case of buyers remorse. McCain is running on those policies that have made these voters dislike Bush. That won't help him with the indy crowd he is fighting Obama over.
Hillary's problems are her own. She would have had real problems in the general election because Republicans and Independents as a whole do not like her--- only Dems really like her. In the Dem race it has allowed Obama to build support among Independents to outvote Hillary's Dem base.
Hillary and Bill have pissed off a lot of Obama Independent supporters to the point that we would never vote for her this time. We need time to forget how much we dislike her. Obama can count on the rank and file Dems voting for him over McCain running on Bush's policies as the Dem candidate so he doesn't really need her. She also makes red and swing states redder, so she is probably not on Obama's list.
Hillary on the other hand with a negative rating that has been tracked between 46 and 58% in the last year needs a VP who can change peoples minds and make people who don't like her vote for her ticket. Her people think Obama could do that for her, but I disagree. I think a great deal of Obama's appeal is that he is not a tradional politician like Hillary or McCain. I think his support would evaporate as second fiddle to Hillary. Gov. Richardson might be the rare VP candidate who could fill Hillary's needs. That said, I think Hillary will not win Texas, so this is a little moot.
Reply:Obama will be easier to beat in the general election. That is why they don't want Hillary in the general election. The world leaders love both of the Clintons. The economy was good and the budget balanced under Bill. And he has had his trying moments during attacks (like the U.S. Cole attack). So it would be harder for McCain to attack Hillary then a nobody like Obama with no experience, and he hasn't sat on any major committee, and he missed half the votes on issues, and did not work bi-partisanly when he had a chance. Yet he says he wants to unite this country and can handle all the major problems facing us nationally and globally. I don't think so....
Reply:I'm all choked up.
Reply:ROFLMAOPMP ... You MUST be JOKING !!! RIGHT !!?!?!
Fear?? ... what a JOKE !!!
We just DO NOT LIKE Billary !!
Reply:That's why we have superdelegates.
Reply:You could have restricted your primaries to Democrats Only but chose not too. Next time don't wait till the last minute to change the rules, which by then will be known universally as Pulling a Hillary
Reply:We did it in VA and it worked great. Texas Rep vote for Obama will give Obama the win easy. Clinton knows it and is trying to hold Ohio, which will make no difference.
Reply:Hillary Clinton is the one who needs to change her tune. From the beginning, her arrogance and pandering nature has made her look bad. The smear campaign her supporter are currently throwing against Obama is making them look even worse - THAT is why people are voting against her at any cost.
It's my vote and I can do with it what I want. I am a disillusioned republican voter who is voting for Obama and will be voting for McCain if Clinton wins the nomination.
Reply:Don't forget that the Florida decision to move the primary up and accept the disipline from the Democratic National Party was made by a Republican Governor and republican state legislature where Hillary Clinton is hugely popular.
Republican's are brilliant there is a reason why the only Democratic Presidents in the last 40 years have been Carter and Clinton and Clinton was due to Ross Perot in 92'.
Reply:A vote for Obama in the primaries is a vote for McCain in the General. The Republicans have repeatedly stated 'Clinton is formidable."
There is a solution: Clinton for Pres., Obama for VP... then later, Obama for Pres, Michelle for VP... and the cycle continues. However, people are voting with emotion, not rationale. All's fair in campaigns... note how Obama is condemning the 3AM ad---he stated it was fear tactics....then he copied it. That kind of 'Change' , that kind of Judgement won't be what I vote for.
Reply:Your assumptions are not true.
Most Obama supporters are Democrats who see Hillary for what she really is - a fake, elitist, career-politician who will say and do anything she feels is convenient at the moment in order to ascend to power.
The "cross-over" effect is exaggerated. Those who are crossing over are doing so because they like the honesty and conviction of Senator Obama, not because they hate Hillary.
You do know that in most states, registered Republicans can't even vote on a Democratic ballot, right???
Reply:So far HUCKABEE is the choice for those not voting for McCain ...
YET............... when the nominee is picked at the Republican convention
THEN regardless of how Republicans voted..They will do everything in their might and power to assure the Democrats DO NOT get back into the White House....
Reply:I heard that the Rep. who don't like McCain are going for Hillary and some (going for McCain in Texas) are voting for Hillary just to keep things interesting since its obvious who will be the Republican nominee. I don't think either way is fair. People should vote for who they WANT to win. This is disappointing.
Reply:no it is sexism
Reply:Same thing happened the other way around in open primary States to bump off Romney and Thompson, thus ensuring that there were no true conservatives in the race. No matter who wins the November election it is a guaranteed victory for liberalism.
Reply:Limbaugh was saying and pushing his listeners for the opposite
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...
Reply:i;am a democrat but i don;t like clinton.she acts as if she is better then everyone else.besides we don;t need anymore clinton;s in the white house.you ask if it;s fair.it;s not fair how she is trying to destroy obama.so if the shoe fits wear it.she deserves to be booted out of the election.
Reply:Yes it is fair. A person can vote for the Democrat or Republican they would rather have as president. If this is happening then they are saying they don't want Hillary to have a chance at being president. If the Democrat nomination was already decided I would cross over and vote for the republican I would prefer rather than waste my vote on a Democrat. Just shows how many people don't like Hillary. I heard a republican say hopefully the Clintons will be gone forever. Also the Clintons are so hated by republicans that Hillary would never get anything done.
Reply:Republicans and fair election do not go together
Reply:In each state the democratic party decides on who can vote in the primaries. Consequently, in the states where the democrats allow republicans to vote, it is perfectly fair that they should do so. If some Hillary voters don't like that, instead of going nuts and voting for the republican candidate, they should ask their local democratic leaders to change the rules for next time.
Reply:You're a very intelligent person.
We need more women in the office.
The world needs a women's touch!
HILLARY 2008!
Reply:Admittedly... That is what I am doing here in Cleveland on March 4th. I have NEVER declared myself a Democrat. However, let's face it.... McCain is already the Nominee. I would rather have Obama than Clinton if The Dems do win the White House. And in my research... I've discovered that Obama, though Liberal, is really not a bad guy. Shrillary is the same ol' same ol'. We have had 2 decades of Clinton's and Bushes. It really is time for change. Now, do your homework.
Let's compare the record:
From the Library of Congress:
Hillary Clinton in her one full term(6 yrs.) and another year campaigning, has authored and passed only 20 pieces of legislation in her term of six years into law. They range from naming a courthouse after Thurgood Marshall to naming a Post Office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
Obama in his first 8 Months sponsored over 820 Bills. Introduced 233 Bills on Healthcare Reform, 125 Bills on Poverty and Public Assistance, 112 Bills on Crime Fighting, 97 Economic Bills, 60 Human Rights and Anti-Discrimination Bills, 21 Ethics Reform Bills, 6 Veterans Affairs Bills and many others. In his First Year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 Bills and co-spomsored another 427. These Include: 1) the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became Law, 2) the Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-prliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became Law, 3) the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate, 4) the 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became Law, just to name a few. In all, since he entered the Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 Bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
Why is this not being discussed heavily on the blogs? Obama supporters should be copying and pasting this all over the net and inundating all the Hillary Blogs with this. When people take a hard look... she is not a hard worker. She represents more grid lock and laziness.
This man WILL get things done. His record PROVES IT.
Pass this on to as many folks as you can this weekend. Everyone on your address books, all blogs. Get the truth out and help make things right!
If Hillary Clinton gets Universal Health care?
and we all have to start carrying around our Health Cards on our person whenever we leave our own homes (Did you even know that was a requirement in her previous "PLAN"?)
Is it true that in order to have a unique UPC bar code for humans, the only number not yet taken is 666?
does that make us common citizens the beast
or is it health care that already has been the beast all along?
If Hillary Clinton gets Universal Health care?
In a state dominated by a mercenary plutocratic predatory few, a privately owned central bank is a beast of a military industrial complex. If politicians don’t have to consult citizens or tax them directly to fund government programs, such as wars and welfare, then maybe politicians can, and do, implement whatever programs they wish. After having the central bank expand the money supply in response to demands for welfare from subjects and demands for warfare from a mercenary plutocratic predatory few, the state may declare that it has become impossible for the central bank to honor a previous guarantee to exchange a paper currency for a fixed quantity of a commodity with an intrinsic value such as gold; and that from now on paper currency will enjoy legal tender status based on the full faith and credit of the state. In practice this means that the state may now have the central bank print an endless supply of cheaply printed paper to be used in exchange for valuable goods and services. By trading an endless supply of cheaply printed paper for valuable goods and services, a beast of a military industrial complex makes available to the state money required to finance a continuing series of wars.
Expansion of the money supply leads to more paper currency chasing after the same goods and services. More paper currency chasing after the same goods and services leads to inflation of the asking price for goods and services. Inflation enables a beast of a military industrial complex to embezzle the purchasing power of savings as the quantity and quality of goods and services that may be purchased by a fixed quantity of paper currency decays over time. Inflation may also drive up the price of labor such that subjects find themselves being pushed into higher tax brackets; and end up paying a larger percentage of their income to taxes. Massive spending programs paid for by the state with loans from the central bank may lead subjects to a future where in the majority of their taxes are being spent on making massive interest payments on an even more massive national debt.
By frequently invoking dubious threats to national security and or interests, a mercenary plutocratic predatory few use war and military spending to justify taking a lion's share of tax money and to disguise and or justify a strategy of redistributing national income in their favor. Maybe this strategy of redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top is carried out by a combination of drastic hikes in spending for warfare, and equally drastic tax cuts for the wealthy. Drastic hikes in spending mainly benefit a mercenary plutocratic predatory few that profit from the sale and manufacture of the products and services of a beast of a military industrial complex. Drastic tax cuts for the wealthy are made mainly to help a mercenary plutocratic predatory few garner support for a continuing series of wars from those amongst the wealthy who do not profit from the sale and manufacture of the products and services of a beast of a military industrial complex. This combination creates large budget deficits. Large budget deficits create a massive national debt that forces the state to use an ever greater portion of taxes collected from subjects to make interest payments. As a result spending for welfare is cut and the rich grow considerably richer at the expense of middle and low income people.
Reply:America deserves Universal Health Care.
Reply:That is completely stupid. And as much of an anti-Hillary person I am, I must admit the fear of 666 does not even make it on my long list of problems with Hillary or reasons to vote against her. Grow up.
Reply:Wow what a freak show,
but it sounds biblical there are two heads to the beast and one lies and promises the world everything then that beast dies "it was lying". The second head as I recall consumes the first head. Then the new Beast promising world peace delivers hell on earth and WAR.
Plus you have to take the mark to get goods and service and health care is a good a service. Without the mark card you would be denied work, plus your employeers will demand to swipe the card for medical reasons and you will be known by all.
Reply:your free colonoscopy will show your true colors
Reply:No more than having to carry a drivers license or other form of ID does....this is about a dumb a post as Ive seen.....congrats
Reply:If Hillary get her way these are thing that WILL happen.
1. Most of the really good doctors will either simply retire or
not accept Government provided health insurance plans.
Don't believe it ? Check and see how many now already
don't accept Medicare as payment.
2. Access to state of the art equipment like MRI, PET and
CAT scans will go from being done immediately to taking
weeks if not months.
3. Quality of health care will decline for all due to #1.
4. All other health related care costs will go up do to the
interference of the government programs
Reply:Old Scout what do you have against America?
Reply:LMFAO@U
Reply:its not true...nonono
Reply:You can't be serious. Are you 5? Did you grow up on a farm with your mother home schooling you?
This has to be a joke.
Just in case it's not a joke:
Don't worry, everything is fine. Health Care is NOT the boogy man and is it not gonna GET you.
Oh yeah, and 666 is just a number that comes after 665 and before 667.
Is it true that in order to have a unique UPC bar code for humans, the only number not yet taken is 666?
does that make us common citizens the beast
or is it health care that already has been the beast all along?
If Hillary Clinton gets Universal Health care?
In a state dominated by a mercenary plutocratic predatory few, a privately owned central bank is a beast of a military industrial complex. If politicians don’t have to consult citizens or tax them directly to fund government programs, such as wars and welfare, then maybe politicians can, and do, implement whatever programs they wish. After having the central bank expand the money supply in response to demands for welfare from subjects and demands for warfare from a mercenary plutocratic predatory few, the state may declare that it has become impossible for the central bank to honor a previous guarantee to exchange a paper currency for a fixed quantity of a commodity with an intrinsic value such as gold; and that from now on paper currency will enjoy legal tender status based on the full faith and credit of the state. In practice this means that the state may now have the central bank print an endless supply of cheaply printed paper to be used in exchange for valuable goods and services. By trading an endless supply of cheaply printed paper for valuable goods and services, a beast of a military industrial complex makes available to the state money required to finance a continuing series of wars.
Expansion of the money supply leads to more paper currency chasing after the same goods and services. More paper currency chasing after the same goods and services leads to inflation of the asking price for goods and services. Inflation enables a beast of a military industrial complex to embezzle the purchasing power of savings as the quantity and quality of goods and services that may be purchased by a fixed quantity of paper currency decays over time. Inflation may also drive up the price of labor such that subjects find themselves being pushed into higher tax brackets; and end up paying a larger percentage of their income to taxes. Massive spending programs paid for by the state with loans from the central bank may lead subjects to a future where in the majority of their taxes are being spent on making massive interest payments on an even more massive national debt.
By frequently invoking dubious threats to national security and or interests, a mercenary plutocratic predatory few use war and military spending to justify taking a lion's share of tax money and to disguise and or justify a strategy of redistributing national income in their favor. Maybe this strategy of redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top is carried out by a combination of drastic hikes in spending for warfare, and equally drastic tax cuts for the wealthy. Drastic hikes in spending mainly benefit a mercenary plutocratic predatory few that profit from the sale and manufacture of the products and services of a beast of a military industrial complex. Drastic tax cuts for the wealthy are made mainly to help a mercenary plutocratic predatory few garner support for a continuing series of wars from those amongst the wealthy who do not profit from the sale and manufacture of the products and services of a beast of a military industrial complex. This combination creates large budget deficits. Large budget deficits create a massive national debt that forces the state to use an ever greater portion of taxes collected from subjects to make interest payments. As a result spending for welfare is cut and the rich grow considerably richer at the expense of middle and low income people.
Reply:America deserves Universal Health Care.
Reply:That is completely stupid. And as much of an anti-Hillary person I am, I must admit the fear of 666 does not even make it on my long list of problems with Hillary or reasons to vote against her. Grow up.
Reply:Wow what a freak show,
but it sounds biblical there are two heads to the beast and one lies and promises the world everything then that beast dies "it was lying". The second head as I recall consumes the first head. Then the new Beast promising world peace delivers hell on earth and WAR.
Plus you have to take the mark to get goods and service and health care is a good a service. Without the mark card you would be denied work, plus your employeers will demand to swipe the card for medical reasons and you will be known by all.
Reply:your free colonoscopy will show your true colors
Reply:No more than having to carry a drivers license or other form of ID does....this is about a dumb a post as Ive seen.....congrats
Reply:If Hillary get her way these are thing that WILL happen.
1. Most of the really good doctors will either simply retire or
not accept Government provided health insurance plans.
Don't believe it ? Check and see how many now already
don't accept Medicare as payment.
2. Access to state of the art equipment like MRI, PET and
CAT scans will go from being done immediately to taking
weeks if not months.
3. Quality of health care will decline for all due to #1.
4. All other health related care costs will go up do to the
interference of the government programs
Reply:Old Scout what do you have against America?
Reply:LMFAO@U
Reply:its not true...nonono
Reply:You can't be serious. Are you 5? Did you grow up on a farm with your mother home schooling you?
This has to be a joke.
Just in case it's not a joke:
Don't worry, everything is fine. Health Care is NOT the boogy man and is it not gonna GET you.
Oh yeah, and 666 is just a number that comes after 665 and before 667.
Senator Clinton; Is she McCain's trump card in 2008?
Where are the Clintons?
Since conceding to OBAMA and the concession speech, where is Hillary? Bill?
Many think that OBAMA's picking up of her debt got him her endoursement, but did it buy her loyalty?
It is no secret that McCain and Senator Clinton are great friends, and it easy to see that there path for the future is right/center of Obama...they basically agree.
Will Senator Clinton be a closet Republican this year? Will she coach and help McCain, since she did such a great job of nearly defeating the Liberal Democrat?
Senator Clinton; Is she McCain's trump card in 2008?
Her and McCain are long time friends. I don't think she will. Because she's confident by letting Obama fall on his face w/out her support. She will be the pre-emptive nominee in 2012.
Over half of her supporters said they would stay home or vote for McCain- either those 9 million votes that Obama lost.
Reply:I didn't think anything under the sun and moon would get me to vote for Obama, but if McCain takes Clinton as his VP, I will do it gladly.
Clinton, in any position of power, is a disaster of monumental proportions just waiting to happen.
Reply:Nope, this is too much of a wild conspiracy theory.
She will not help McCain, and I don't really believe that it would help McCain that much.
Believe Obama pretty much has the presidency sown up, unless something really bad happens.
Reply:no. she does not agree with mccain on most issues. she would not want to play 2nd fiddle to someone who is fine extending the war in iraq for another 100 years %26amp; doesn't support women's reproductive rights. thank God hillary is not on team mccain. -*D*
Reply:nice spin in your fairy tale
but
Obama and Hillary are set to begin campaigning together this weekend
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/el...
Reply:We can only hope she does as you suggest.
Reply:I wish she would support McCain.
Since conceding to OBAMA and the concession speech, where is Hillary? Bill?
Many think that OBAMA's picking up of her debt got him her endoursement, but did it buy her loyalty?
It is no secret that McCain and Senator Clinton are great friends, and it easy to see that there path for the future is right/center of Obama...they basically agree.
Will Senator Clinton be a closet Republican this year? Will she coach and help McCain, since she did such a great job of nearly defeating the Liberal Democrat?
Senator Clinton; Is she McCain's trump card in 2008?
Her and McCain are long time friends. I don't think she will. Because she's confident by letting Obama fall on his face w/out her support. She will be the pre-emptive nominee in 2012.
Over half of her supporters said they would stay home or vote for McCain- either those 9 million votes that Obama lost.
Reply:I didn't think anything under the sun and moon would get me to vote for Obama, but if McCain takes Clinton as his VP, I will do it gladly.
Clinton, in any position of power, is a disaster of monumental proportions just waiting to happen.
Reply:Nope, this is too much of a wild conspiracy theory.
She will not help McCain, and I don't really believe that it would help McCain that much.
Believe Obama pretty much has the presidency sown up, unless something really bad happens.
Reply:no. she does not agree with mccain on most issues. she would not want to play 2nd fiddle to someone who is fine extending the war in iraq for another 100 years %26amp; doesn't support women's reproductive rights. thank God hillary is not on team mccain. -*D*
Reply:nice spin in your fairy tale
but
Obama and Hillary are set to begin campaigning together this weekend
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/el...
Reply:We can only hope she does as you suggest.
Reply:I wish she would support McCain.
Bill Clinton Attacks Obama using the experience card.? Experience we can could not trust vs a new ideal?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Obama said it best that he is about new experience and real changes. Shut down the fmr Pres. What do you think?
Bill Clinton Attacks Obama using the experience card.? Experience we can could not trust vs a new ideal?
I don't think Obama or Hillary have enough experience.
Reply:I think this clearly shows that any one who votes Democrat Hates America
DOG
Obama said it best that he is about new experience and real changes. Shut down the fmr Pres. What do you think?
Bill Clinton Attacks Obama using the experience card.? Experience we can could not trust vs a new ideal?
I don't think Obama or Hillary have enough experience.
Reply:I think this clearly shows that any one who votes Democrat Hates America
DOG
Why would Hillary Clinton change her Campaign Manager at this time.?
The "reported" reason is that they are in need of more people. Then why would she eliminate one. The fact that she fired a Hispanic and hired an "African" American seems very much like a played "race card". Particularly since, she is currently seeking votes from the D.C., Maryland, and Virginia states, which have a heavy African American voter base. Seems like a slap in the face to me.
I doubt very many African Americans are that foolish to vote for a person because on the color of ones skin.
Why would Hillary Clinton change her Campaign Manager at this time.?
First there is no doubt that Hillary Clinton will lose. The fact that Bill is her husband has choked that off. I do not believe that people are that distracted from reality that they wont see that as a major problem.
Reply:Because they are losing and she is hoping beyond hope that she will snatch a few votes away from Obama.
Not going to happen
Reply:Trouble in Paradise.
Cause she thought...months ago...even a year ago...she would have been printing up invitations to Whitehouse dinner parties.
She is having trouble dealing.
And a campaign manager...is the person in charge...of winning the ball game for you
So get a new manager.
This is all unexpected.
Remember...the Clintons are not use to losing. Ever.
Expect...some terrible stuff real soon
tick tick tick....
Reply:Hillary is simply being out campaigned by Obama. I don't think it had to do with race. I think she is furious over her recent decline so some heads had to roll. She knows that if she doesn't do something quick, it's all over for her.
Reply:She will remain as a senior adviser. Solis Doyle said she was stepping aside as Maggie Williams takes over and cited the strain of the extended fight for the nomination.
``This has already been the longest presidential campaign in the history of our nation, and one that has required enormous sacrifices from all of us and our families,'' Solis Doyle said.
Reply:She's taking on water and losing ground.
Heads will roll...
Reply:Because, like a true Clinton, she is blaming her abysmal performance as the supposed front-runner on someone else. Of course, she's also pandering to the black community.
Reply:She changed managers because she is starting to lose. It's quite simple.
Added later: It is quite simple. Why do Americans have to turn everything into a conspiracy?
Reply:because the last manager she try to make bill clinton happy
Reply:The big buzz is that it has to do with spending (as well as the fact that she is doing poorly). Apparently the campaigns spending is way out of control.
I do not think she believes she will gain any votes with African Americans for doing so (she tried to pass it through the press with little attention to it...it obviously is embarrassing to her).
The majority of people in the nation will not pay this alot of attention. It is not much of a strategy to gain votes.
It won't help her. Obama has this.
Reply:Well if you doubt many African Americans are that foolish, Poor old Obama in trouble. LOL. You may want to rethink that one. But Hillary black lady not going to help her, The A.A. will never leave obama. unless he is Killed as some say that will happen .But, I don't believe that one either.,as that would start a civil war.Who would be that crazy?
Reply:It's just another one of Hillary's stunts. Before every primary and/or caucus, she pulls out a dirty little trick from her campaign bag. This is just her latest one.
Hillary is only parading her new African-American manager around to try and garnish votes in D.C., Maryland and Virginia from African-Americans.
And by the way, she did not fire the Hispanic campaign manager, Soliz, she's still working for Hillary.
So don't be surprised to see Hillary parading Soliz in from of the cameras when Hillary goes to heavily-populated Hispanic states.
If Maggie Williams, her new manager, were so good, then why didn't she hire her from the get go?
Reply:It seems pretty obvious to me Hillary is merely having a different hand of race cards being dealt to her.
Reply:She is changing her advistory becuase she is loosing. When the clintons began to loose that get mad and do whatever it takes to win.
Reply:Hillary is in panic mode right now. The campaign is falling apart, the money is drying up, and Obama is on a massive popularity upswing.
She might as well drop out at this point and save a lot of people, a lot of time and money.
Reply:African american will stay with obama. Hillary messing with her campign manager it show is she scared.
thas the idea. i totally agree on the race card.
Obama's Soon to be Downfall - just in time for all these listing of primarys? yea.... nice name hater!
Reply:You have got to be kidding me.
The person she assigned was a long time confidante of Clinton..since way back in the early 90's. The move if anything is surely not new nor unexpected. Many blacks new of her. It's not about playing the race card, it's about winning.
Reply:She needed a new one that can gather the "sheep" that are starting to follow that idiot Barack Hussein Obama .
Reply:desperate people do desperate things.
Reply:She will do whatever she has to, to win votes. That's one of her main faults.
Reply:You don't have to dig deeper just feel your surroundings. CNN support OSAMA opps the other Muslim (Muslim by birth will always be a Muslim) OBAMA as what I figured every time they aired politics. And OBAMA promised to CHANGE the Whitehouse into a BLACKHOUSE and what else the United States flag into what color? The young ones never learned the history of America. Learn your history and make your choice.
Reply:to you.. But you're probably just a hillary basher probing for bs to post about her. Give it up. Haters make her famous
I doubt very many African Americans are that foolish to vote for a person because on the color of ones skin.
Why would Hillary Clinton change her Campaign Manager at this time.?
First there is no doubt that Hillary Clinton will lose. The fact that Bill is her husband has choked that off. I do not believe that people are that distracted from reality that they wont see that as a major problem.
Reply:Because they are losing and she is hoping beyond hope that she will snatch a few votes away from Obama.
Not going to happen
Reply:Trouble in Paradise.
Cause she thought...months ago...even a year ago...she would have been printing up invitations to Whitehouse dinner parties.
She is having trouble dealing.
And a campaign manager...is the person in charge...of winning the ball game for you
So get a new manager.
This is all unexpected.
Remember...the Clintons are not use to losing. Ever.
Expect...some terrible stuff real soon
tick tick tick....
Reply:Hillary is simply being out campaigned by Obama. I don't think it had to do with race. I think she is furious over her recent decline so some heads had to roll. She knows that if she doesn't do something quick, it's all over for her.
Reply:She will remain as a senior adviser. Solis Doyle said she was stepping aside as Maggie Williams takes over and cited the strain of the extended fight for the nomination.
``This has already been the longest presidential campaign in the history of our nation, and one that has required enormous sacrifices from all of us and our families,'' Solis Doyle said.
Reply:She's taking on water and losing ground.
Heads will roll...
Reply:Because, like a true Clinton, she is blaming her abysmal performance as the supposed front-runner on someone else. Of course, she's also pandering to the black community.
Reply:She changed managers because she is starting to lose. It's quite simple.
Added later: It is quite simple. Why do Americans have to turn everything into a conspiracy?
Reply:because the last manager she try to make bill clinton happy
Reply:The big buzz is that it has to do with spending (as well as the fact that she is doing poorly). Apparently the campaigns spending is way out of control.
I do not think she believes she will gain any votes with African Americans for doing so (she tried to pass it through the press with little attention to it...it obviously is embarrassing to her).
The majority of people in the nation will not pay this alot of attention. It is not much of a strategy to gain votes.
It won't help her. Obama has this.
Reply:Well if you doubt many African Americans are that foolish, Poor old Obama in trouble. LOL. You may want to rethink that one. But Hillary black lady not going to help her, The A.A. will never leave obama. unless he is Killed as some say that will happen .But, I don't believe that one either.,as that would start a civil war.Who would be that crazy?
Reply:It's just another one of Hillary's stunts. Before every primary and/or caucus, she pulls out a dirty little trick from her campaign bag. This is just her latest one.
Hillary is only parading her new African-American manager around to try and garnish votes in D.C., Maryland and Virginia from African-Americans.
And by the way, she did not fire the Hispanic campaign manager, Soliz, she's still working for Hillary.
So don't be surprised to see Hillary parading Soliz in from of the cameras when Hillary goes to heavily-populated Hispanic states.
If Maggie Williams, her new manager, were so good, then why didn't she hire her from the get go?
Reply:It seems pretty obvious to me Hillary is merely having a different hand of race cards being dealt to her.
Reply:She is changing her advistory becuase she is loosing. When the clintons began to loose that get mad and do whatever it takes to win.
Reply:Hillary is in panic mode right now. The campaign is falling apart, the money is drying up, and Obama is on a massive popularity upswing.
She might as well drop out at this point and save a lot of people, a lot of time and money.
Reply:African american will stay with obama. Hillary messing with her campign manager it show is she scared.
thas the idea. i totally agree on the race card.
Obama's Soon to be Downfall - just in time for all these listing of primarys? yea.... nice name hater!
Reply:You have got to be kidding me.
The person she assigned was a long time confidante of Clinton..since way back in the early 90's. The move if anything is surely not new nor unexpected. Many blacks new of her. It's not about playing the race card, it's about winning.
Reply:She needed a new one that can gather the "sheep" that are starting to follow that idiot Barack Hussein Obama .
Reply:desperate people do desperate things.
Reply:She will do whatever she has to, to win votes. That's one of her main faults.
Reply:You don't have to dig deeper just feel your surroundings. CNN support OSAMA opps the other Muslim (Muslim by birth will always be a Muslim) OBAMA as what I figured every time they aired politics. And OBAMA promised to CHANGE the Whitehouse into a BLACKHOUSE and what else the United States flag into what color? The young ones never learned the history of America. Learn your history and make your choice.
Reply:to you.. But you're probably just a hillary basher probing for bs to post about her. Give it up. Haters make her famous
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