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Clinton, Obama and the race/gender card?

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I've seen a lot of posts about support of the Dem nominees and the demographical breakdown of who's voting for who and why. There are several questions about why black people vote for Obama...etc. The overwhelming majority of the answers to these are like, "I don't vote for him because he's black, its because he's the best, etc." And the same for Clinton, just substitute "woman" for "black." Generally speaking of course.

It is an insult to assume that a Dem votes for ___ just because of ____ . .....right?

So here's the question.

When Obama or Clinton loses to McCain in the general election, what will the excuse be from Dems?

Too many "good ole boys" couldn't handle having a black or woman president?

Double standard...?

From the same Dem supporters who are insulted that they are being accused of voting on race or gender, will be accusing Reps, of the very same thing.....

I just want that whoever loses, that they take the loss like a man... (or woman) and not cry foul

Clinton, Obama and the race/gender card?
I really hate to say this, but Obama will be our next president ! Why,,,,,because the news media is totally in the tank for this guy ! Just turn on any news station and you will see this, he is getting ten to one coverage over Clinton, and when the media is through beating Clinton up, they will turn on McCain !
Reply:people think in race are you, are in the past. We are not in 1965. We have different challenges: one of them is to be united.
Reply:I'm democrat and I'm tired to listen Obama's and Clinton's

high school BS

I'm going to vote for McCain as a punishment

for the Dem. Candidates..

we are in war and McCain is the only one to understand

what it's mean come back home from the combat zone

and I believe he will do everything to help our Soldiers

to get back too a normal life for the rest is only politics
Reply:After Bush destroyed a country and went against his promise to not get involved in overthrowing a government, I thought enough people would be mad and the Republicans will lose the next presidential election.

But now...the Republicans will win the ticket again if Obama wins the nomination. America is not willing, ready or able to let a black man become the next president.

I am not prejiduced, just stating the facts.

So, Mc Pain will be the next president, unless Hillary wins. Then indeed history will be made.

Does anyone really think a black man could win the election when the big bucks will go with the Republicans?

I don't think so....
Reply:im a republican but i do like obama and will be voting for him
Reply:I t could be that its already a done deal. The REPUBLICAN$ strategy is , they won`t elect black,-they won`t elect a woman! so what`s that leave? WAKE UP AMERICA!!
Reply:i know. thats why I wish Al Gore were in it
Reply:i'd support both clinton and obama.. but i can only choose one.. why is that ur making this negative.. what about if mccain loses, will he take it like a man????? i understand that this is a first but my golly give me a break already
Reply:The Dem will have know one to blame but themselves. They will be so tried out from their fight, that McCain will just walk away with the title.
Reply:Your logic is inherently flawed.

So when I vote for McCain, my vote as a *woman* for a *man* counts for nothing -- Afterall, its just *white* voting for *white,* right? Wrong -- afterall, if I can marry a person of color, I can sure vote for one.
Reply:I'm a Obama supporter but if he looses and Clinton is the nominee I'd support her. Mccain is too much of a right-wing nutjob to even think about voting for.

Why does Michelle Obama pander to black people?

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Barack always tries to steer clear of the race issue (although his campaign loves to play it up and then blame the Clinton campaign for playing the race card). But Michelle always gets up in front of black people and stirs their racial pride as a way of getting them to vote for Barack. She overtly plays the race card, but no one critcizes her fr pandering to black folks. Why?

Why does Michelle Obama pander to black people?
Because just like Bill Clinton, spouses are used to do the dirty work that the actual candidate can't do. Only difference between Michelle and Bill in terms of this, is that Bill gets more media attention when he speaks. But Barack has pandered to the Black population before.

No media outlet wants to target Michelle on that. They will look racist if they do.
Reply:she's a democrat...
Reply:The candidate's spouses always get a little more leeway. Look at what Bill says and does for Hillary?
Reply:because her last name is not clinton. the media is responsible for brain-washing black americans into believing that the clintons are the only racists people in america. the sad thing about it is the majority of us believe it.

whenever black america need the media to take a stand and use their voice to speak out about racism, they pretend it doesn't exist.

sorry media, your "let's all join together and hate the clintons" tactics are not working for me.

HILLARY CLINTON in 2008!!!!!!!!
Reply:- Why do the republicons are so desperate to create "division" in the democratic field to reign and win election with their strategy of "politic of fear"?

- Why the republicons think they could succeed with their "racist card" to win election by accusing others?

It's not gonna be the same as you did in the last election, and you could feel it with those two great candidates Clinton and Obama who gonna make "history" in the American society ...

Keep trying and distracting people's mind with the real facts: "recession in our economy, poverty in its all form and debt for us and our children before they even born" ...

Many republicans see and support their party before they stand and value their country; what a shame!
Reply:Because it's impossible for Barack to do this himself without generating huge controversy within the non-black communities. He wants to solidify his support for the black vote, he cannot do this himself, and his wife certainly appears more in touch with the black community anyhow.

It really makes sense to do things this way, and it's tough to criticize a black woman for rallying black voters. Clinton has already been burned on the race issue. This hurts her especially due to Bill's credentials within the black community, and her hopes of riding his coattails there being dashed.
Reply:To gain votes its no different than Huckabee pandering to the evangelists.
Reply:Because they are fighting for the black vote. Simple enough. Barack himself panders in this area when he gives speeches using the cadence of a black preacher when he doesn't ever talk like that in real life. But the Clintons are looking for the black vote too, they counted on it too much and now have to fight for it. I know we're supposed to say that race doesn't matter, but clearly it does. Look at South Carolina.
Reply:Because he does not stand a chance of getting elected.
Reply:Um, before you post, why don't you check out what parties/ groups/conventions have invited Michelle Obama to speak? I assume that you haven't done any checking on this, all the speaking engagements on her calender, because she does not "always get in front of black people".

You sound like a racist troll here.
Reply:Pandering? How silly. Do you know what it means?

Who do you want her to play up to Lithuanians?

Hillary Clinton switches her accent on and off according to where she is. Why is she pandering to Northerners today and Southerners tomorrow?
Reply:she wants them to vote for her husband.

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Looks like a lot of Republican voters are voting for Obama to keep Clinton out of office. Is this fair?

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I think it is too bad that Hillary will likely lose the presidency because Republicans are crossing over to vote against her, especially in Texas. Ohio also has an open primary, so I see the same thing happening here. Though I like Obama, the cards really seem stacked against Clinton right now. What I fear is that the Republican strategy will work. Hillary supporters will be pissed and vote McCain to spite Obama. Looks like this election could play right into Republicans hands, if Hillary and Obama don't come up with a plan to keep this from happening. That's right. I think Obama needs to help Hillary out. Hillary needs to help Obama out. The wisest thing for either one of them to do is start thinking about a president and vice president strategy. All we are doing now is dividing the democratic party, and that is the last thing we need right now. I voted for Obama, but if I were in Texas, I'd be voting Hillary. I don't like seeing someone get pummeled unfairly. Go Dems!!!!

Looks like a lot of Republican voters are voting for Obama to keep Clinton out of office. Is this fair?
Anything that moves Clinton closer to the green grass of home and away from the white house is fine with me. She continues to make promises that everyone with an IQ over 50 knows are never going to be met. She will give, give, give but no mention of where the funding will come from to do all that giving. It is an insult for her to continue to make statements that are so far from the truth.
Reply:This is baloney. You don't know one single registered Republican who is going to register as a Democrat to vote for Barack. Not one. I'll bet you a dollar you can't find a single verifiable instance. The people who keep saying this certainly wouldn't do it themselves.
Reply:With respect, I think you are misreading the situation. The Republicans Obama is getting are not voting for Obama so McCain will have an easier candidate than Hillary, they are voting for him because they like him and are rejecting the status quo. My Dad is one of those Obama Republicans.

Several political pundits have publically stated on CNN, FOX, and MSNBC that Obama is a much tougher candidate for McCain because both candidates pull from the independent crowd and McCain has issues with his conservative base.

Hillary running would get evangelicals out in numbers voting against her (for McCain). There is a real question whether McCain will be able to hold on to his independent base and win back the Evengelicals vs. Obama. Obama has vowed not to concede the Evangelicals and McCain has been dogged about not giving the Evangelicals any concessions.

Bush has a 28% approval rate, but got like 52% of the vote in the last election. That means that 24% of people who voted republican hate bush's policies and probably have a horrible case of buyers remorse. McCain is running on those policies that have made these voters dislike Bush. That won't help him with the indy crowd he is fighting Obama over.

Hillary's problems are her own. She would have had real problems in the general election because Republicans and Independents as a whole do not like her--- only Dems really like her. In the Dem race it has allowed Obama to build support among Independents to outvote Hillary's Dem base.

Hillary and Bill have pissed off a lot of Obama Independent supporters to the point that we would never vote for her this time. We need time to forget how much we dislike her. Obama can count on the rank and file Dems voting for him over McCain running on Bush's policies as the Dem candidate so he doesn't really need her. She also makes red and swing states redder, so she is probably not on Obama's list.

Hillary on the other hand with a negative rating that has been tracked between 46 and 58% in the last year needs a VP who can change peoples minds and make people who don't like her vote for her ticket. Her people think Obama could do that for her, but I disagree. I think a great deal of Obama's appeal is that he is not a tradional politician like Hillary or McCain. I think his support would evaporate as second fiddle to Hillary. Gov. Richardson might be the rare VP candidate who could fill Hillary's needs. That said, I think Hillary will not win Texas, so this is a little moot.
Reply:Obama will be easier to beat in the general election. That is why they don't want Hillary in the general election. The world leaders love both of the Clintons. The economy was good and the budget balanced under Bill. And he has had his trying moments during attacks (like the U.S. Cole attack). So it would be harder for McCain to attack Hillary then a nobody like Obama with no experience, and he hasn't sat on any major committee, and he missed half the votes on issues, and did not work bi-partisanly when he had a chance. Yet he says he wants to unite this country and can handle all the major problems facing us nationally and globally. I don't think so....
Reply:I'm all choked up.
Reply:ROFLMAOPMP ... You MUST be JOKING !!! RIGHT !!?!?!

Fear?? ... what a JOKE !!!

We just DO NOT LIKE Billary !!
Reply:That's why we have superdelegates.
Reply:You could have restricted your primaries to Democrats Only but chose not too. Next time don't wait till the last minute to change the rules, which by then will be known universally as Pulling a Hillary
Reply:We did it in VA and it worked great. Texas Rep vote for Obama will give Obama the win easy. Clinton knows it and is trying to hold Ohio, which will make no difference.
Reply:Hillary Clinton is the one who needs to change her tune. From the beginning, her arrogance and pandering nature has made her look bad. The smear campaign her supporter are currently throwing against Obama is making them look even worse - THAT is why people are voting against her at any cost.

It's my vote and I can do with it what I want. I am a disillusioned republican voter who is voting for Obama and will be voting for McCain if Clinton wins the nomination.
Reply:Don't forget that the Florida decision to move the primary up and accept the disipline from the Democratic National Party was made by a Republican Governor and republican state legislature where Hillary Clinton is hugely popular.

Republican's are brilliant there is a reason why the only Democratic Presidents in the last 40 years have been Carter and Clinton and Clinton was due to Ross Perot in 92'.
Reply:A vote for Obama in the primaries is a vote for McCain in the General. The Republicans have repeatedly stated 'Clinton is formidable."

There is a solution: Clinton for Pres., Obama for VP... then later, Obama for Pres, Michelle for VP... and the cycle continues. However, people are voting with emotion, not rationale. All's fair in campaigns... note how Obama is condemning the 3AM ad---he stated it was fear tactics....then he copied it. That kind of 'Change' , that kind of Judgement won't be what I vote for.
Reply:Your assumptions are not true.

Most Obama supporters are Democrats who see Hillary for what she really is - a fake, elitist, career-politician who will say and do anything she feels is convenient at the moment in order to ascend to power.

The "cross-over" effect is exaggerated. Those who are crossing over are doing so because they like the honesty and conviction of Senator Obama, not because they hate Hillary.

You do know that in most states, registered Republicans can't even vote on a Democratic ballot, right???
Reply:So far HUCKABEE is the choice for those not voting for McCain ...

YET............... when the nominee is picked at the Republican convention

THEN regardless of how Republicans voted..They will do everything in their might and power to assure the Democrats DO NOT get back into the White House....
Reply:I heard that the Rep. who don't like McCain are going for Hillary and some (going for McCain in Texas) are voting for Hillary just to keep things interesting since its obvious who will be the Republican nominee. I don't think either way is fair. People should vote for who they WANT to win. This is disappointing.
Reply:no it is sexism
Reply:Same thing happened the other way around in open primary States to bump off Romney and Thompson, thus ensuring that there were no true conservatives in the race. No matter who wins the November election it is a guaranteed victory for liberalism.
Reply:Limbaugh was saying and pushing his listeners for the opposite

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...
Reply:i;am a democrat but i don;t like clinton.she acts as if she is better then everyone else.besides we don;t need anymore clinton;s in the white house.you ask if it;s fair.it;s not fair how she is trying to destroy obama.so if the shoe fits wear it.she deserves to be booted out of the election.
Reply:Yes it is fair. A person can vote for the Democrat or Republican they would rather have as president. If this is happening then they are saying they don't want Hillary to have a chance at being president. If the Democrat nomination was already decided I would cross over and vote for the republican I would prefer rather than waste my vote on a Democrat. Just shows how many people don't like Hillary. I heard a republican say hopefully the Clintons will be gone forever. Also the Clintons are so hated by republicans that Hillary would never get anything done.
Reply:Republicans and fair election do not go together
Reply:In each state the democratic party decides on who can vote in the primaries. Consequently, in the states where the democrats allow republicans to vote, it is perfectly fair that they should do so. If some Hillary voters don't like that, instead of going nuts and voting for the republican candidate, they should ask their local democratic leaders to change the rules for next time.
Reply:You're a very intelligent person.

We need more women in the office.

The world needs a women's touch!

HILLARY 2008!
Reply:Admittedly... That is what I am doing here in Cleveland on March 4th. I have NEVER declared myself a Democrat. However, let's face it.... McCain is already the Nominee. I would rather have Obama than Clinton if The Dems do win the White House. And in my research... I've discovered that Obama, though Liberal, is really not a bad guy. Shrillary is the same ol' same ol'. We have had 2 decades of Clinton's and Bushes. It really is time for change. Now, do your homework.

Let's compare the record:

From the Library of Congress:

Hillary Clinton in her one full term(6 yrs.) and another year campaigning, has authored and passed only 20 pieces of legislation in her term of six years into law. They range from naming a courthouse after Thurgood Marshall to naming a Post Office after Jonn A. O'Shea.

Obama in his first 8 Months sponsored over 820 Bills. Introduced 233 Bills on Healthcare Reform, 125 Bills on Poverty and Public Assistance, 112 Bills on Crime Fighting, 97 Economic Bills, 60 Human Rights and Anti-Discrimination Bills, 21 Ethics Reform Bills, 6 Veterans Affairs Bills and many others. In his First Year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 Bills and co-spomsored another 427. These Include: 1) the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became Law, 2) the Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-prliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became Law, 3) the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate, 4) the 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became Law, just to name a few. In all, since he entered the Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 Bills and co-sponsored another 1096.

Why is this not being discussed heavily on the blogs? Obama supporters should be copying and pasting this all over the net and inundating all the Hillary Blogs with this. When people take a hard look... she is not a hard worker. She represents more grid lock and laziness.

This man WILL get things done. His record PROVES IT.

Pass this on to as many folks as you can this weekend. Everyone on your address books, all blogs. Get the truth out and help make things right!

If Hillary Clinton gets Universal Health care?

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and we all have to start carrying around our Health Cards on our person whenever we leave our own homes (Did you even know that was a requirement in her previous "PLAN"?)

Is it true that in order to have a unique UPC bar code for humans, the only number not yet taken is 666?

does that make us common citizens the beast

or is it health care that already has been the beast all along?

If Hillary Clinton gets Universal Health care?
In a state dominated by a mercenary plutocratic predatory few, a privately owned central bank is a beast of a military industrial complex. If politicians don’t have to consult citizens or tax them directly to fund government programs, such as wars and welfare, then maybe politicians can, and do, implement whatever programs they wish. After having the central bank expand the money supply in response to demands for welfare from subjects and demands for warfare from a mercenary plutocratic predatory few, the state may declare that it has become impossible for the central bank to honor a previous guarantee to exchange a paper currency for a fixed quantity of a commodity with an intrinsic value such as gold; and that from now on paper currency will enjoy legal tender status based on the full faith and credit of the state. In practice this means that the state may now have the central bank print an endless supply of cheaply printed paper to be used in exchange for valuable goods and services. By trading an endless supply of cheaply printed paper for valuable goods and services, a beast of a military industrial complex makes available to the state money required to finance a continuing series of wars.

Expansion of the money supply leads to more paper currency chasing after the same goods and services. More paper currency chasing after the same goods and services leads to inflation of the asking price for goods and services. Inflation enables a beast of a military industrial complex to embezzle the purchasing power of savings as the quantity and quality of goods and services that may be purchased by a fixed quantity of paper currency decays over time. Inflation may also drive up the price of labor such that subjects find themselves being pushed into higher tax brackets; and end up paying a larger percentage of their income to taxes. Massive spending programs paid for by the state with loans from the central bank may lead subjects to a future where in the majority of their taxes are being spent on making massive interest payments on an even more massive national debt.

By frequently invoking dubious threats to national security and or interests, a mercenary plutocratic predatory few use war and military spending to justify taking a lion's share of tax money and to disguise and or justify a strategy of redistributing national income in their favor. Maybe this strategy of redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top is carried out by a combination of drastic hikes in spending for warfare, and equally drastic tax cuts for the wealthy. Drastic hikes in spending mainly benefit a mercenary plutocratic predatory few that profit from the sale and manufacture of the products and services of a beast of a military industrial complex. Drastic tax cuts for the wealthy are made mainly to help a mercenary plutocratic predatory few garner support for a continuing series of wars from those amongst the wealthy who do not profit from the sale and manufacture of the products and services of a beast of a military industrial complex. This combination creates large budget deficits. Large budget deficits create a massive national debt that forces the state to use an ever greater portion of taxes collected from subjects to make interest payments. As a result spending for welfare is cut and the rich grow considerably richer at the expense of middle and low income people.
Reply:America deserves Universal Health Care.
Reply:That is completely stupid. And as much of an anti-Hillary person I am, I must admit the fear of 666 does not even make it on my long list of problems with Hillary or reasons to vote against her. Grow up.
Reply:Wow what a freak show,

but it sounds biblical there are two heads to the beast and one lies and promises the world everything then that beast dies "it was lying". The second head as I recall consumes the first head. Then the new Beast promising world peace delivers hell on earth and WAR.

Plus you have to take the mark to get goods and service and health care is a good a service. Without the mark card you would be denied work, plus your employeers will demand to swipe the card for medical reasons and you will be known by all.
Reply:your free colonoscopy will show your true colors
Reply:No more than having to carry a drivers license or other form of ID does....this is about a dumb a post as Ive seen.....congrats
Reply:If Hillary get her way these are thing that WILL happen.

1. Most of the really good doctors will either simply retire or

not accept Government provided health insurance plans.

Don't believe it ? Check and see how many now already

don't accept Medicare as payment.

2. Access to state of the art equipment like MRI, PET and

CAT scans will go from being done immediately to taking

weeks if not months.

3. Quality of health care will decline for all due to #1.

4. All other health related care costs will go up do to the

interference of the government programs
Reply:Old Scout what do you have against America?
Reply:LMFAO@U
Reply:its not true...nonono
Reply:You can't be serious. Are you 5? Did you grow up on a farm with your mother home schooling you?

This has to be a joke.

Just in case it's not a joke:

Don't worry, everything is fine. Health Care is NOT the boogy man and is it not gonna GET you.

Oh yeah, and 666 is just a number that comes after 665 and before 667.

Senator Clinton; Is she McCain's trump card in 2008?

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Where are the Clintons?

Since conceding to OBAMA and the concession speech, where is Hillary? Bill?

Many think that OBAMA's picking up of her debt got him her endoursement, but did it buy her loyalty?

It is no secret that McCain and Senator Clinton are great friends, and it easy to see that there path for the future is right/center of Obama...they basically agree.

Will Senator Clinton be a closet Republican this year? Will she coach and help McCain, since she did such a great job of nearly defeating the Liberal Democrat?

Senator Clinton; Is she McCain's trump card in 2008?
Her and McCain are long time friends. I don't think she will. Because she's confident by letting Obama fall on his face w/out her support. She will be the pre-emptive nominee in 2012.

Over half of her supporters said they would stay home or vote for McCain- either those 9 million votes that Obama lost.
Reply:I didn't think anything under the sun and moon would get me to vote for Obama, but if McCain takes Clinton as his VP, I will do it gladly.

Clinton, in any position of power, is a disaster of monumental proportions just waiting to happen.
Reply:Nope, this is too much of a wild conspiracy theory.

She will not help McCain, and I don't really believe that it would help McCain that much.

Believe Obama pretty much has the presidency sown up, unless something really bad happens.
Reply:no. she does not agree with mccain on most issues. she would not want to play 2nd fiddle to someone who is fine extending the war in iraq for another 100 years %26amp; doesn't support women's reproductive rights. thank God hillary is not on team mccain. -*D*
Reply:nice spin in your fairy tale

but

Obama and Hillary are set to begin campaigning together this weekend

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/el...
Reply:We can only hope she does as you suggest.
Reply:I wish she would support McCain.

Bill Clinton Attacks Obama using the experience card.? Experience we can could not trust vs a new ideal?

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Obama said it best that he is about new experience and real changes. Shut down the fmr Pres. What do you think?

Bill Clinton Attacks Obama using the experience card.? Experience we can could not trust vs a new ideal?
I don't think Obama or Hillary have enough experience.
Reply:I think this clearly shows that any one who votes Democrat Hates America

DOG

Why would Hillary Clinton change her Campaign Manager at this time.?

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The "reported" reason is that they are in need of more people. Then why would she eliminate one. The fact that she fired a Hispanic and hired an "African" American seems very much like a played "race card". Particularly since, she is currently seeking votes from the D.C., Maryland, and Virginia states, which have a heavy African American voter base. Seems like a slap in the face to me.

I doubt very many African Americans are that foolish to vote for a person because on the color of ones skin.

Why would Hillary Clinton change her Campaign Manager at this time.?
First there is no doubt that Hillary Clinton will lose. The fact that Bill is her husband has choked that off. I do not believe that people are that distracted from reality that they wont see that as a major problem.
Reply:Because they are losing and she is hoping beyond hope that she will snatch a few votes away from Obama.

Not going to happen
Reply:Trouble in Paradise.

Cause she thought...months ago...even a year ago...she would have been printing up invitations to Whitehouse dinner parties.

She is having trouble dealing.

And a campaign manager...is the person in charge...of winning the ball game for you

So get a new manager.

This is all unexpected.

Remember...the Clintons are not use to losing. Ever.

Expect...some terrible stuff real soon

tick tick tick....
Reply:Hillary is simply being out campaigned by Obama. I don't think it had to do with race. I think she is furious over her recent decline so some heads had to roll. She knows that if she doesn't do something quick, it's all over for her.
Reply:She will remain as a senior adviser. Solis Doyle said she was stepping aside as Maggie Williams takes over and cited the strain of the extended fight for the nomination.

``This has already been the longest presidential campaign in the history of our nation, and one that has required enormous sacrifices from all of us and our families,'' Solis Doyle said.
Reply:She's taking on water and losing ground.

Heads will roll...
Reply:Because, like a true Clinton, she is blaming her abysmal performance as the supposed front-runner on someone else. Of course, she's also pandering to the black community.
Reply:She changed managers because she is starting to lose. It's quite simple.

Added later: It is quite simple. Why do Americans have to turn everything into a conspiracy?
Reply:because the last manager she try to make bill clinton happy
Reply:The big buzz is that it has to do with spending (as well as the fact that she is doing poorly). Apparently the campaigns spending is way out of control.

I do not think she believes she will gain any votes with African Americans for doing so (she tried to pass it through the press with little attention to it...it obviously is embarrassing to her).

The majority of people in the nation will not pay this alot of attention. It is not much of a strategy to gain votes.

It won't help her. Obama has this.
Reply:Well if you doubt many African Americans are that foolish, Poor old Obama in trouble. LOL. You may want to rethink that one. But Hillary black lady not going to help her, The A.A. will never leave obama. unless he is Killed as some say that will happen .But, I don't believe that one either.,as that would start a civil war.Who would be that crazy?
Reply:It's just another one of Hillary's stunts. Before every primary and/or caucus, she pulls out a dirty little trick from her campaign bag. This is just her latest one.

Hillary is only parading her new African-American manager around to try and garnish votes in D.C., Maryland and Virginia from African-Americans.

And by the way, she did not fire the Hispanic campaign manager, Soliz, she's still working for Hillary.

So don't be surprised to see Hillary parading Soliz in from of the cameras when Hillary goes to heavily-populated Hispanic states.

If Maggie Williams, her new manager, were so good, then why didn't she hire her from the get go?
Reply:It seems pretty obvious to me Hillary is merely having a different hand of race cards being dealt to her.
Reply:She is changing her advistory becuase she is loosing. When the clintons began to loose that get mad and do whatever it takes to win.
Reply:Hillary is in panic mode right now. The campaign is falling apart, the money is drying up, and Obama is on a massive popularity upswing.

She might as well drop out at this point and save a lot of people, a lot of time and money.
Reply:African american will stay with obama. Hillary messing with her campign manager it show is she scared.

thas the idea. i totally agree on the race card.

Obama's Soon to be Downfall - just in time for all these listing of primarys? yea.... nice name hater!
Reply:You have got to be kidding me.

The person she assigned was a long time confidante of Clinton..since way back in the early 90's. The move if anything is surely not new nor unexpected. Many blacks new of her. It's not about playing the race card, it's about winning.
Reply:She needed a new one that can gather the "sheep" that are starting to follow that idiot Barack Hussein Obama .
Reply:desperate people do desperate things.
Reply:She will do whatever she has to, to win votes. That's one of her main faults.
Reply:You don't have to dig deeper just feel your surroundings. CNN support OSAMA opps the other Muslim (Muslim by birth will always be a Muslim) OBAMA as what I figured every time they aired politics. And OBAMA promised to CHANGE the Whitehouse into a BLACKHOUSE and what else the United States flag into what color? The young ones never learned the history of America. Learn your history and make your choice.
Reply:to you.. But you're probably just a hillary basher probing for bs to post about her. Give it up. Haters make her famous

The GOP-controlled House "has been run like a plantation.".Has Hilary Clinton started playing the "RACE CARD"?

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At a Harlem church on Martin Luther King Day, she said that Bush's presidency would "go down in history as one of the worst" and that the GOP-controlled House "has been run like a plantation."

The GOP-controlled House "has been run like a plantation.".Has Hilary Clinton started playing the "RACE CARD"?
STARTED playing the Race Card ...Hilary is a buffoon, who has no reason even being in office. If she wants to look at presidency's that would go down as one of the worst, she just has to look at her cheatin sack of poop for a husband ...
Reply:Hilawry Rodamn Clinton is campaigning, and she said she wouldn't/wasn't. Can you believe she lied?

Spouting such nonsense to a Harlem church audience gives you everything you need to know about her character -- or rather, her lack of it.

I'm hoping to see some rival take her down a notch and point out such trash.
Reply:Shes played the race card and the stupid card at the same time.
Reply:When politicans start appealing to the lowest common denominator . . . They get elected by their base to run for higher office.
Reply:Old Hilary after being away for a while as her real self has returned,and yes sticking her size twelve shoe in her mouth as usual,some things never change,ofcourse she was pandering to a black audience, especially on M.L King day,I'm surprise she did'nt do it in Rap,what really is interesting is the audience do not see right through it,quite the contrary they flew to her side to defend her,it is this kind of no class behavior from the left that has given Republicans the White House,The Senate and the House of Representatives

Who would be most likely to cheat at cards ?

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Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama ?

Who would be most likely to cheat at cards ?
Hillary... she has more experience!
Reply:Both are equally likely, and both would.
Reply:Hillary Clinton, face it kids, she is a veteran politician and knows all the tricks. Barrack Obama isn't a vet yet, but he is learning and he has other people to take the flack for him.

,

But, so what? If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Reply:Who you would want to play strip poker with?

Why is Hillary Clinton such as soar loser?

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She launches attack ads

She distorts her opponents views

She lies about opponents records

She cries to garnish sympathy vote

She pulls out the race card to try capitalize on the white backlash vote

she is all about dirty politics's and tactics

She went back on her word about Michigan and Florida

She is a total hypocrite and a Liar

Why is Hillary Clinton such as soar loser?
Sore. That's our Hillary. Old school politics.
Reply:I was researching this Michigan and florida problem. Didn't she agree to not allow these two states to have a voice in the convention time?

Why she go back on her word now?

I think if you agree to something you should always agree to it.

Is it because she's losing that she go back on her word?

I don't like this woman hillary. She seem to be very bad bad person.
Reply:Your right. When she loses, she soars! All the way to 2nd place.
Reply:"Soar"....lol.
Reply:I don't have problem with her .It's the way the game is played today. If Obama supporters can't handle the small amount of heat that the Clinton's are applying to their collective fannies then they will positively wither if Obama is the nominee[he's not going to be] and the Republicans apply the heat.
Reply:Well ever since she started losing,she decided that this was the only way for her to win
Reply:Because she's Cruella DeVille
Reply:He doens't have as much humility as she claims. You think Hillary's a sore loser, just look at bill. He's losing his mind and his dignity again.

They don't know how to conduct themselves with integrity, and do we really want them running our country........

AGAIN???????
Reply:First of all its because shes a Clinton secondly it was not that long ago that she was the "anointed and chosen and inevitable one" of the Democratic party. Now her "rats" are jumping ship and she is desperately trying to keep it afloat.
Reply:Sounds like Hillary! She is showing her true colors...
Reply:She's not use to losing
Reply:WOW! I guess you do not like Hillary. I think you need to take a good look at your candidate. Do you really think you know everything about Mr. Obama? Think again and please read and study his voting record in the Senate. Besides saying "Present" most of the time because he could never make up his mind shows what kind of President he will make. He is indecisive, full of rhetoric and dreams, with no substance. God help us all if he is elected.
Reply:I don`t agree with you, I think you are just afraid that Obama will lose, that bashing Hillary is the only way to make you feel better!
Reply:This isn't a basketball game, i would be pissed if i were losing the presidency too!
Reply:She is pissed off because the republicans are voting 4 0bama, because they think he is even more unelectable than she is. She usally is ever so polite and friendly.

running shoes

Are we really sure on who we want to vote for president. I think it is time for a woman but not clinton.?

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And a black president would be nice, but not sure right now is the time. Since most of the jobs are being given to the black and imagrents and the white man is turned down even if he is more qualifed. So the race card has been turned around. I think the real question is who can not be swayed by bad politics and what are there priorities. As there is so many things wrong. Who really has those qualities

Are we really sure on who we want to vote for president. I think it is time for a woman but not clinton.?
i think netime is the right time for an intelligent, well-qualified president (especially after that train wreck we call our 43rd president). i can't vote at my age, but if i could, i personally like John McCain, despite my being a democrat. as long as I think they're right for the job, i don't care what party they're from. i totally agree with what george washington thought about political parties. it just clouds our vision on who really is the best candidate. people will vote for a complete moron, just because theyre from their personal party, not even bothering to find out about the other more qualified person. just be an informed voter and don't think about the things that don't matter (but unfortunately are what we base our decision on neway).
Reply:Neither race nor gender matter to me. If I feel the person running for office is really interested in my welfare, then that person, if nominated, will get my vote. I have voted both parties, I'm not dedicated to any one party. At this time I am not thinking Republican, for the present, I have had enough of this party! However, since it is about 14 months until the election, I think it too soon for anyone to make up their minds. I'm still blowing in the wind, waiting until something decisive happens to help me in my voting selection.
Reply:I never base my vote on race or gender. I think sometime we will have a woman. We will not have a woman elected in 2008.
Reply:You are right, I wouldn't mind either but not the ones running this time. Hillary is riding on Bills coat tails and Obama is even more racist than KKK Robert C. Byrd. At least Byrd doesn't show his racisms. Obama used to have a racist web page and has made speeches that said if he didn't get elected, there would be racial riots.
Reply:While I am not opposed to either a woman or an African American as president I don't support either of these two current candidates.

I could support C. Rice. She would take care of both traits!
Reply:FOR THE LOVE OF AMERICA STOP DECIDING WHO TO VOTE FOR BASED UPON GENDER AND RACE. IT'S SEXIST AND RACIST!!! Vote for who is best suited for the job, Huckabee.
Reply:Either way, the next election will make history.

Don't you think the Clinton's are just wayyyy out of their league?

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Once again Obama has countered what she thought was momentuem with a huge Trump card. How brillant was the timing of the Ewards endorsement?

Don't you think the Clinton's are just wayyyy out of their league?
Slimy sound bytes just won't hack it with the American People any more, except the shallow end of the pool.

Hillary and Bill don't believe that we can remember what they claim for even 24 hours.
Reply:Yes. A politician through and through. Typical.

Pretty sure Hillary knew Edwards was going to endorse Obama.

Did you expect Edwards to endorse Obama before WV?? That would've been a disaster. Obama would still have lost there and it would have looked like Edward's endorsement had no effect.

The Clintons way out of their league? A former president who beat the incumbent president and Republicans twice? I don't think so.
Reply:It could be that they're dealing with a bigger snake than themselves, who is consuming them. It's sad to watch that whole brood of Democrats and to think that people could like any of them, especially B. Hussein Obama.
Reply:Clinton would make a great president But not right now. Not Obama Either. We cant afford to have a designer president right now! I think its ignorant of them to even run. They should just step down and let a real man do the job. John Edwards!
Reply:No, I think that the Clintons are doing just what they planned from the beginning and that is too use Bills influence on the Polititions that make up the super deligates too get Hillery elected. I STILL FEEL THAT THAT STRATIGY WILL BE SUCESSFUL.
Reply:LOL....you call it favorable that Obama was sanctioned by a nothing one term hypocrite senator? Okay then.......I guess I'm still trying to get my arms around how low the expectations of a liberals brain can be.
Reply:I think Obama is the minor leaguer here. Edwards really supports Hillary, but Obama promised him the VP.
Reply:Funny thing is...Edwards had more positive things to say about Hillary than he did Obama.
Reply:obama is paying john edwards

Hillary for President!

Bill for first ladY!
Reply:Hillary sucks. Obama rules!
Reply:The utter childishness of both the Obama and Clinton supportters is frightening.
Reply:And obumma is wayyyyy out of his come November. Class dismissed.
Reply:Hilary sucks
Reply:They are wayyyyyyyyyy out of time.

How dirty can it get Clinton has expressed support for immigrants and greater family reunification?

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The Los Angeles Times continues its reporting on Hillary Clinton's epic fundraising. At this point in the election cycle, Hillary has raised more money than any candidate in American history, and she's getting it from an unlikely source: the poorest sections of...Chinatown (you just knew another Clinton fundraising scandal would involve China somehow.) Of course, there's much of the same shadiness going on with these contributions as there was with the Norman Hsu scandal: poor immigrant donors who have no discernible way to make the contributions they have, donors who cannot be tracked down, donors who's neighbors don't even know they exist, donors who don't even know why they're donating, and, my personal fav, donors who donated because a Chinese neighborhood organization formally involved in human trafficking told them to:

Dishwashers, waiters and others whose jobs and dilapidated home addresses seem to make them unpromising targets for political fundraisers are pouring $1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton's campaign treasury. In April, a single fundraiser in an area long known for its gritty urban poverty yielded a whopping $380,000. When Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) ran for president in 2005, he received $24,000 from Chinatown.

At this point in the presidential campaign cycle, Clinton has raised more money than any candidate in history. Those dishwashers, waiters and street hawkers are part of the reason. And Clinton's success in gathering money from Chinatown's least-affluent residents stems from a two-pronged strategy: mutually beneficial alliances with powerful groups, and appeals to the hopes an dreams of people now consigned to the margins.

Clinton has enlisted the aid of Chinese neighborhood associations, especially those representing recent immigrants from Funjian province. The organizations, at least one of which is a descendant of Chinatown criminal enterprises that engaged in gambling and human trafficking, exert enormous influence over immigrants. The associations help them with everything from protection against crime to obtaining green cards.

Read the whole article. Clinton's "two-pronged" strategy is known best by the term "flat-out exploitation." Here's the other "prong":

The other piece of the strategy involves holding out hope that, if Clinton becomes president, she will move quickly to reunite families and help illegal residents move toward citizenship. As New York's junior senator, Clinton has expressed support for immigrants and greater family reunification. She is also benefiting from Chinese donors' naive notions of what she could do in the White House.

I'm both surprised and pleased that the LA Times is continuing with its examination of Hillary's fundraising exploits, which, in this instance, again include improper donations. I wonder, however, like Macranger does, if the Times is covering the story so diligently now so that it's old news by the time the primaries roll around. That may well be true, but it seems like under each new rock you turn over, a new Clintonian scandal crawls out. Will it hurt her? Unfortunately, probably not. It's been this way for years

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-...

How dirty can it get Clinton has expressed support for immigrants and greater family reunification?
Does any one besides me think that there is something wrong when the candidate with the most money is picked to be the winner well before the election . I don't just mean this election it's been this way for a long time, it seems like we elect the best fund raiser or the person who is connected to the wealthiest backers.
Reply:there is nothing wrong in having one family reunified

if u r legal immigrant
Reply:Altho I won't vote for her I'm sure Hillary is going to be President. At least things seem to be pointing that way. I read an article that said ALL the GOP women support Hillary's run for Pres. That doesn't bode well for any other candidate. I think we're all in for a shocker soon as far as exactly how far reaching her voter base truly is.
Reply:These Candidates raising this much money is obscene . How can a good and decent Candidate ever run for President or any other office . There needs to be changes in this electrical proses
Reply:ok and whats wrong against being for family unity to begin with? did your mother not love you

What will be the excuses offered when obama is denied the democratic nomination?

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I believe that he will be derailed by the clinton machine as they have not played all their cards just yet.

What will it do to the disinfranchised in the party?

What will be the excuses offered when obama is denied the democratic nomination?
One thing for sure if the nomination is handed to Hillary over the popular vote for Obama a major break in the party will happen. The backlash of the people will effect not only the run for president but many of the super delegates will be thrown out of office when they come up for election. It could also spark racial violence. There is no excuse that wil satisfy the people if their votes are ignored. The Clinton machine will have destroyed the democratic party. The Republicans will enjoy the largest margin of victory in a long time. Hillary could not even keep her family together how can anyone expect her to unite the country.
Reply:It will be racism without a doubt only this time the democrats will be blamed
Reply:main excuse might be his lack of experience or if polls change that he might no be able to take on McCain (that is if polls change)

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Obama is obviously the frontrunner. Should we allow the race-card entered by Rodham Clinton to continue?

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No matter how suttle, race is being challenged and entered into this race by Rodham Clinton. She is a female who is no doubt desperately trying to get elected. Should we really give her the attention on this. I think not. What do you think?

Obama is obviously the frontrunner. Should we allow the race-card entered by Rodham Clinton to continue?
Clinton is only hurting herself thus far.

If she insists on making this a racial issue I do not think anyone is going to be able to stop her. She has the attention of the press.

I think however, that doing so will only hurt her in the end (especially with African Americans), and lead to further evidence that Obama is a man of integrity (so far her sleazy and rancid attacks throughout this campaign have proven only that).

I think this is healthy for America to view. Many Democrats are finally seeing the Clinton's for what they really are.
Reply:"Independent" said it extremely well. I canno add anything to that. Bravo!
Reply:no more 'politics-as-usual' or 'politics-of-destruction'

enough of 'divisive politics' by BOTH parties.

VOTE OBAMA '08!
Reply:Hillary did not enter the race card in this political run it was entered by Obama the day he decided to run for president. I know he can't help it but be African American but that in itself brought the race issue to the table.

To get back to the obvious issue everybody refers to today and that being the comment Hillary made about MLK, I say that people should stop reading into the words and simply listen to the words. I am convinced that Hillary did not intend to lower the importance of MLK but she made a valid point that you can have as great as political ideas as you want unless you have the people to make it a law you got nothing. Her message means one thing only, she can bring change, she has the tools, the people and the knowledge to do so.

Race? well race is an issue 24/7 in our country regardless of politics, we just need to learn to live with it and wipe the race issue all together, we are all American, but as long as we continue to call ourselves African American, Hispanic American, Euro American and so on ... this issue will never leave us, ever.
Reply:PLEASE~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Reply:I say NOT.

Im tired of this racial BS. Ignore these baiting techniques and keep it clean.

YES WE CAN

Obama 08
Reply:To tell you the truth, no! HRC has no reason to do that. You know, it makes me sad, not mad to see these kinds of things. The only reason HRC is winning is because of Bill, period. She just wants to say, "My husband was president, and I am too! Isn't this so exciting! I get to be powerful!" You could say I am crazy, but your probably a grown up who thinks he knows everything. When you go through tough times, mom and grandma got cancer, my dad is almost paralyzed, foreclosure, no healthcare, poor education, you have no choice but to go against the status quo, because the status quo is not working for me or many other people in this country.
Reply:First off, you are a complete fool to vote for osama obama, as he has a muslim upbringing, regardless of his color. As far as hitlery vs. osama obama, i say let them rip each other apart. As we all know, the demon-rats are the party of personal destruction, of dependence upon the state, and of taxation beyond reason. In the end, we also see that the demon-rats are the TRUE party representing racism %26amp; sexism. You'd think the sheeple that vote "d" would be intelligent enough to see that, but if they were, they'd be voting "R" anyway! While many of you don't like Bush, don't worry. The demon-rats will screw up this election, just as they've screwed up the last two.
Reply:Obama front runner? Who u try to cheat - the young kids on YA? Where have u been hiding lately?

Get real.

Do you know that Hillary is beating Obama in over 45 state polls, and in the national poll, and delegate counts?
Reply:It was Obama's camp the cried foul. He's turned off a lot of undecided voters. I'm praying for McCain to get the nomination so I'm not forced to vote for either of them . . .
Reply:I wish she would dry up and blow away.
Reply:Hillary should be ashamed of her self
Reply:She wasn't using the "race card". She was taken out of context, as is usually the case with things like this.

What she was simply saying is that you have to have a president that can actually make things happen and not just talk about making things happen.

Simply put, if it weren't for Dr. King, the Civil Rights movement would not have happened like it did with certainty... and he is to absolutely be given credit for his tremendous amount of work and determination in the face of such adversity...

However, if President Johnson had simply dismissed Dr. King and the Civil Rights Act, that dream would not have been able to become a reality when it did. What she was saying is that you need a president who will get the job done.

It's embarrassing to think that anyone cannot see that, and I wish that people would stop insinuating that the American people are idiots, who can be fooled by such rhetoric.

Want to see what we can do with taking things out of context? Ask Jimmy Kimmel with his "Unnecessary Censorship".
Reply:I don't really see anyone giving it attention,...well except for you, the righties, FOX, and Rush limbaugh...
Reply:Obama did not cry foul, he said simply this:

....Obama said Sunday her comment about King was "ill-advised."...

The Clintons took the term "ill-advised" and turned it into a "racist attack against Hillary and drawing 'race' into the election". The AP, Reuters, Washington Post and NY Times took the exaggeration and ran with it.

The Clintons can manipulate the media better than anyone, even better than Rove.

This is what the Clinton smear-machine has always done. They always paint themselves as victims, as the stalwarts of progress that these other "villains" out there try to prevent. In this case, Barack is now the center of the Clinton attack-machine.

It is dirty-politics, plain and simple. Good old fashioned dirty politics, to paint yourself as a victim, and your opponents as "demons".

The Clintons will win.

They are richer, dirtier and more politically tied to the establishment than Obama. After they won, they'll have to pay out all the political favors they used up to win. Which means we'll see the same old tired politicians, soaking up our tax money, getting lots of ambassador appointments and ripping off the American people.
Reply:I think they are both rediculous. multiple times obama has pulled the "race card" to get the black vote. it is ALL he is running on, and hillary has pulled the "sex card" to get the women's vote. its not right to make what gender or race you are have ANYTHING to do with it. they both have very weak platforms other than that.
Reply:Front runner? For what, late night pizza delivery?

What does this tell you about our presidential candidates?

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Who is playing the oppressed card the best, McCain (ageism), Obama (racism), or Clinton (sexism)?

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Gotta be Obama

Who is playing the oppressed card the best, McCain (ageism), Obama (racism), or Clinton (sexism)?
McCain avoids the issue that he used to live in Bedrock. It calls attention to his senility.
Reply:Hussein

Don't you think the Clinton's are just wayyyy out of their league?

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Once again Obama has countered what she thought was momentuem with a huge Trump card. How brillant was the timing of the Ewards endorsement?

Don't you think the Clinton's are just wayyyy out of their league?
Not brilliant at all.

Brilliant would have been getting Edwards' endorsement before the WV primary.

The fact that Obama waited until after the primary is an amateurish move.

This endorsement does not counter Clinton's momentum.

Now, what is with all the political trolling?
Reply:she will win in 4 years...I said 2 years ago she would loose the frist time..that she would win in the next 4 years..in 4 years i think she win and be president
Reply:Hillary was way out of her league as a Senator from N.Y.!

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Will President Bill Clinton 60th birthday party celebration be a surprise?

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August 12, 2006 I wish I could be there (in the house) to present him a card and gift.

Will President Bill Clinton 60th birthday party celebration be a surprise?
Too late, you spoiled the surprise.
Reply:You DO????? Have you no pride?
Reply:He doesn't know when his birthday is?
Reply:Yeah man I heard Monica Lewinsky is popping out of a cigar shapped cake.
Reply:Probably not, He probably already knows what day his birthday is, so he will not be surprised.
Reply:I'm surprised anyone would care. He's scum!
Reply:If it was a surprise he'd probably get a heart attack
Reply:Lord! I hope not! The man has a heart condition!
Reply:I'm not Sure., but I hope So.
Reply:It will be a surprise to me that Hillary didn't kill him. They fought like cat and dog all the time they were in the White House.
Reply:I'm pretty sure he knows he'll be 60.
Reply:Will Monica play with his cigar?
Reply:It will be a surprise if Hillary shows up :D

Probably no more surprise than Dubya's 60th was last month.
Reply:Even I think he is smarter than that. My birthday is Monday %26amp; I know it is going to be party time, even though I said no party.
Reply:Being that you already know about it, what do you think?
Reply:are you insane?
Reply:It wont be a surprise, I'm pretty sure he knows when he'll turn 60.
Reply:no one really cares....

Was the race card played on Bill Clinton?

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A number of people from Obama's campaign, the media, and his followers (examples on YA abound) have been talking about how the demographics of PA are/were unfavorable. This is why they lost. This is why they did not expect to win.

Conversely, a lot of people have been talking about how very favorable the demographics of NC are for Obama. Everyone is expecting him to win, and by a considerable margin. A number of his more staunch supporters on here have said "Just wait for North Carolina..." etc. etc. (One even went on to elaborate with comments that were truly racist *cough*Gale H*cough*) Why are they expecting to win by 10 in NC when they lost by 10 in PA? Magic? No.

After Obama won HANDILY in South Carolina, what did Bill Clinton say that was so bad? Jesse Jackson won SC twice? That's a statement of fact. A significant fact considering AA voters are voting for Obama like 9 to 1. He was alluding to Obama's demographic edge, using an example to do so.

Was the race card played on Bill Clinton?
At one of the debates hosted by MSNBC, Tim Russert questioned Sen Obama on the issue of the "race card."

Russert held up several pieces of paper that Obama's staff was distributing to the media as talking points on Bill Clinton. The public does not see this. It's a strategy to go negative on Hillary by making race an issue on anything said by Bill Clinton.

You can see the question on YouTube. Obama has used race from the start, something the media tends to stay away from.
Reply:After the rotten generization of the person above, (M Str8)

I am almost afraid to comment

BUT

I think its rather disgusting that black Americans have thrown the Clintons under the bus after the 30+ yrs of hard work they have put in to get racial equality for them

ALL BECAUSE

a "brother" is running, one with very little experience (that doesn't matter to them) and one that has controversy all around him regarding his own racism (its ok he's black)
Reply:Yup, it was, and very successfully, too. Just like they pulled it out and played it on Gerry Ferraro.
Reply:More Black, black, black,White,white white. Bill put his foot on his mouth that's all.
Reply:Bill's feelings were hurt because up until now black people liked him but they turned on him...
Reply:What does a race card look like? Car someone explain this to me?
Reply:Do we really want a liberal, closeted racist leading our country?

(Shocking percentage despite the fact that African-Americans make up only 17 percent of our population)

FBI Uniform Crime Report.

Weapons violations are committed by Blacks at nearly 5 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are caught receiving or buying stolen property at nearly 5 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are involved in prostitution at almost 4 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are arrested for drug crimes at over 4 times the rate for Whites;

Blacks are more than three times as likely as Whites to be caught at forgery, counterfeiting, and fraud, and almost three times as likely to be caught at embezzlement;

Blacks are more than 3 times as likely to be thieves as Whites;

Blacks are more than 4 times as likely to commit assault as Whites;

Blacks are almost 4.5 times as likely to steal a motor vehicle;

Blacks are more than 5 times as likely to commit forcible rape as Whites;

Blacks are over 8 times as likely to commit murder as Whites;

Blacks are more than 10 times as likely to commit robbery as Whites;

Nearly 25% of all Black males between the ages of 20 and 29 are in jail or on probation - this does not include those wanted or awaiting trial;

For all violent crimes considered together, Blacks are almost 5.5 times more likely to commit violent criminal acts than

Glen Johnson v Chad Dawson, Clinton Woods v Antonio Tarver?

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Both fights are due to take place on the same card in Florida on 12 April 08. Who wins each fight and how? And do the winners face each other for the right to fight B-Hop? And this only leaves Danny Green uncommitted for a fight with Roy Jones Jr in the immediate future - is this a worthwhile fight for RJJ - Green is the WBA champion.

Glen Johnson v Chad Dawson, Clinton Woods v Antonio Tarver?
Any Light heavyweight you put in front of Chad Dawson will lose. He is the next great fighter and should be a star by the end of this year.
Reply:Dawson's beat nobody besides Adamek, who won a vacant title and fought lower quality fighters. So to say Johnson, who's been in with FAR better opposition and a number of wars should get destroyed is probably not too accurate. I think Dawson would win in his toughest fight to date. Late stoppage or UD.

I agree with the Woods UD prediction. Tarver just looks old.

I don't see why the winners would face one another to fight B-Hop given that it's likely Calzaghe wil be the man to beat come April 19th. I'm guessing Joe will put B-Hop into retirement or give him a wake up call that it's time to retire after maybe one or two more bouts. I think Dawson beats Woods by KO and would be interested in seeing Dawson-Calzaghe. I'd like to say Calzaghe wins that one but it'll probably come a little too late.

I think RJJ would prefer a bigger money fight and would say it's more worthwhile for Green if he can get something arranged with Don King.
Reply:Chad Dawson should destroy Glen and Clinton Woods should win a decision over Tarver.....

U see Roy Jones jr is on his way out and he wants that last big money fight....he deserves it

Tarver whole boxing career was to beat Jones Jr.....thats why he's not a threat to noboby else but Roy Jones Jr.

Glen Johnson is getting old and he's not looking that that warrior of old.

What does this tell you about our presidential candidates?

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Top campaign contributors...

Clinton DLA Piper Law firm

Clinton Goldman Sachs Investment bank, securities

Clinton Morgan Stanley Financial services

Clinton Citigroup Inc Credit cards, financial services

McCain Blank Rome LLP Law and lobbying firm

McCain Merrill Lynch Financial services

McCain Citigroup Inc Credit cards, financial services

McCain Greenberg Traurig LLP Law and lobbying firm

McCain Goldman Sachs Investment bank, securities

Obama Goldman Sachs Investment bank, securities

Obama UBS AG Financial services

Obama JPMorgan Chase %26amp; Co Financial services

Obama Lehman Brothers Investment management firm

Paul US Army Armed services

Paul US Navy Armed services

Paul Google Inc Technology, Web site

Paul Microsoft Corp Technology

Paul Us Air Force Armed services

What does this tell you about our presidential candidates?
I'll answer your question with a question. What do all these people (listed below) have in common? Answer: All of these current or former Presidents, Vice-Presidents, CEOs, Directors, etc. of these well known banking institutions are also current or former members of the Council on Foreign Relations (and many are also current/former members of the Trilateral Commission and have held high-ranking positions in government). I've only listed last names through (partially) those starting with the letter "K." The entire list can be found here:

http://www.nndb.com/org/505/000042379/

*Emily Altman, Morgan Stanley Director, International Government Relations: Morgan Stanley (1994)

*Wintrop W. Aldrich, Chase Manhattan Bank President (1930-34)

*Richard Braddock, Citicorp President %26amp; COO (1990-92)

*J, Carter Bacot, Bank of New York CEO (1982-98)

Bank of New York President (1974-84)

*Kenneth Chenault, American Express CEO 2001-

American Express President (1997-2001)

*James Dimon, JP Morgan Chase President and CEO 2004-

Bank One Chairman and CEO (2000-04)

Smith Barney CEO

Travelers Group President and COO (1993-98)

Citicorp President of Citigroup

American Express Assistant to Sandy Weill

* Robert R. Douglas, Chase Manhattan Bank Vice Chairman (1985-93)

Chase Manhattan Bank variously EVP, General Counsel, Secretary (1976-85)

* Stephen Friedman, Goldman Sachs General Partner (1973-94)

Goldman Sachs (1966-73)

*Richard S. Fuld, Jr., Lehman Brothers CEO (1993-)

Lehman Brothers President and COO (1993-94)

Shearson Lehman Brothers President and Co-CEO, LB Division (1990-93)

Shearson Lehman Brothers Vice Chairman (1984-90)

Lehman Brothers (1969-84)

Member of the Board of Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Member of the Board of Lehman Brothers (1984-, as Chairman, 1994-)

*William B. Harrison, Jr., JP Morgan Chase CEO (2000-05)

JP Morgan Chase President (2000-04)

Chase Manhattan Bank President and CEO (1999-2000)

Chemical Bank Vice Chairman Institutional Banking (1990-

Member of the Board of Chase Manhattan Bank (1991-2000)

Member of the Board of JP Morgan Chase (2000-06, as Chairman, 2001-06)

*David W. Heleniak, Morgan Stanley Vice Chairman

*Thomas S. Johnson, Chemical Bank President (1983-89)

Chemical Bank (1969-83)

See charts of "Who owns the Fed" at the site listed below to see how these companies interlock:

http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view...

I think US Army/Armed Services; US Navy/Armed Services; Google, Inc.; Microsoft Corp.; US Air Force/Armed Services are self-explanatory.

What does this tell us about the candidates? If nothing else, this tells me that Clinton, Obama and McCain are, as evidenced by their top/largest campaign donors/contributors, without a doubt linked to the CFR and, no doubt, will work to push the CFR/globalist agenda.

According to FEC reports, Ron Paul has received more military donations than the other three remaining Republican candidates combined. This tells me that our soldiers have overwhelmingly donated to the only candidate who has promised to end the war/situation in Iraq and bring the troops home, now. Many soldiers tell why they are supporting Ron Paul: http://www.newlibertyusa.com/military_su...

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/veterans/

Google, Inc. employees donated to RP's campaign as did Microsoft Corp. employees (they must not agree with their globalist employers concerning really important matters). The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families.

http://opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.ph...
Reply:I'm voting for Ron Paul regardless. But after I saw these two vids and the lack of media coverage condemning it I realized his only chance is for citizens to break the system and TAKE IT BACK! Otherwise the powers that be really are "choosing" the president. Watch the vid and what happens to Nader before ya call me crazy. He did do an awesome job exposing it but the Media is about as free as the 2nd amendment. Warped.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MyvVQYf6XWk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eUxQadgSkoA
Reply:Hmmm...that Paul is for America and the American people and the other three are for the rich corporations? You notice with McCain, Obama, and Clinton you see bank, bank, bank, bank? They don't give a crap about you and me. Ron Paul is the only one who does
Reply:That politics is all about money, regardless of who you are or who you claim to stand for. Somewhere money is involved and once money is involved, people or groups think that their views need more attention than others.
Reply:The three who have the best chance of winning will have finance and law firms constantly kissing their asses, while Ron Paul has the backing of two large technology firms and the military.

I'm going with the military...Ron Paul '08!
Reply:It tell me that

Ron Paul is the

only candidate that

does NOT have,

nor would NOT accept

contributions

from corporations that

are members of the CFR

(Council on Foreign Relations)!!

America truly needs Ron Paul!!
Reply:It tells me that the candidates are supported by large corporations or government agencies, to be marketed and sold like a can of beans.

Is this a news flash?
Reply:Goldman sach's really supports democrats(obama/clinton) , CitiGroup is so indecisive they Buy into both parties(clinton/mccain), and the armed services really likes Paul
Reply:What amazes me is Paul's supporters. N ow just why would the Military support Paul when he wants out of Iraq? Kinds blows Rush Limbaugh's theory about phony soldiers out of the water huh?
Reply:Looks like Paul would be the best. Too bad he can't win. 2nd would be Mccain. Atleast he won't weaken the military and raise taxes.
Reply:It does not tell me anything about them. It can tell me about the ones who are making the donations though.
Reply:If the person votes his/her beliefs, what these connections matter?

But you know the answer to this question is: they don't.

Rush Limbaugh - Write in '08 (hate me yet?)
Reply:Lobbyists STILL ABOUND...........I see no change in any political process with the major three contenders. Sickening. Bought and paid for I would say.
Reply:That the banking / financial industry wants to be bailed out again.
Reply:http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/...
Reply:Golly! I would consider hiring Obama for a Cashier position if he passed a drug test.
Reply:This tells me to vote for McCain.
Reply:Nothing!
Reply:It shows that there's not going to be any "change" in 2008 regardless of who a person votes for.
Reply:They get all their money from the same firms and banks, so no difference.

Franky
Reply:I GUESS I'LL VOTE FOR CLINTON
Reply:It tells me Paul is probably the most honest.
Reply:Paul rocks!
Reply:PAUL IS AWESOME.. HES HONEST AND RIGHT,
Reply:support our troops vote Ron Paul!
Reply:that obama looks pretty good stacked up against clinton/mcbush--because their lobby list is a lot longer than you give credit for.

OBAMA '08!
Reply:i think arnold schwarzeneger should run for president..

who agrees?

family nanny

Why Did Bill Clinton Lie About His Remarks on Race Card?

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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2...

Why Did Bill Clinton Lie About His Remarks on Race Card?
Bill Clinton lying?!?!?!

You mean, the man who debated what the meaning of "is" is?

Hint, he is a politician, they ALL lie.
Reply:You're obviously a young person too young to remember the Clintons' storied legacy in the black community or you're the typical black Obama voter, suffering from amnesia. Posts like this and people like Jeremiah Wright have taken this country alot further backwards than most white people. NOBODY has done more for black people since the Kennedys than Bill Clinton. You should be ashamed!

(OBAMA'S CAMP STARTED THE RACE CARD WAY BEFORE SC. THEY ACCUSED PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE OF LYING TO POLLSTERS AND BEING RACIST!!!)
Reply:Faye: I agree with the previous writer. Either you are a young Black votes who wants Obama (because he looks black or what?). Basically Clinton was the 1st President to be called the 1st Black President in America. During his Presidency he supported many important Blacks and had was heavely supported by Blacks during his 92 and 96 campaign. Bottom line: The media manipulated the information that its feed to viewers and reader - for RATINGS!
Reply:Gee, didn't Bill Clinton use the race card when he said that Sista Soulja was a person of influence? You don't remember her. she was a part of the group Public Enemy. she said after the LA riots that blacks should have just taken to the streets and killed white people. he made a speech about this obscure goofy black person. in a few years, you won't remember Jeremiah Wright. Do you remember Willie Horton? Every election cycle, they trot out the obscure goofy black bogeyman. Say Farrakhan----BOOOOOOOO
Reply:I can understand being a fervent supporter of your selected presidential candidate. The truth is racism is very much alive in America. We hold these feelings in our hearts, talk about it in private and even act upon it if given the chance. The big uproar occurs only when someone is caught or call on his/her words. Racism is too "taboo" to talk publicly about without being judged. My point is: Perhaps The Clintons are not racist, but it is possible to inject race in order to paint your opponent in a negative light, thus, pulling the white voters in due to excessive seeds of doubt planted. The Clinton campaign has used race constantly, they can deny it, but it is a documented fact. Our words will outive us... Here's an article I found that will break down every racist comment made and by whom.
Reply:He was shaking hands with the public and simply told them he was not playing games with them and if they had the question and answer to get back to them. He did not lie.....sheshhh try another one Obama Zombies! Are we worried about the election and that Hillary will win due to your radical nominee who has more skeletons then all the other candidates combined. Just wait till he is called to the stand on the Rezko case.....your cult leader will end up in jail on either that shady dealing or maybe another one.

BTW.....the obama campaign has played the race card as does his supporters which is silly as they are the racists...well most of them. Bill and Hillary are far from being racist.....he was the first black President in many peoples eyes. Guess some of you forget that eh?
Reply:Awe, I don't know can you tell me why Obama sat in a church for 20 years listening to Wright? Then lie and said he did not then he did then he couldn't disown him. You know like in his Great RACE speech, then he disowns him, then he said he was not going to the church anymore? Like which is it. Oh yeah, Ovictim says whatever he thinks his Victims want to hear.
Reply:Bill Clinton lying, why is that surprising?

He lied about Monica Lewinski.

He lied about Paula Jones.

He lied about Jennifer Flowers.

He lied about lying.
Reply:why did he lie about lewinsky

why did hill-dog lie about bosnia...so many questions so little time
Reply:Sorry but are you surprised Clinton lied?

He lied for the same reason he lied about Monica to protect Hillary. (LOL)
Reply:OBAMA STARTED THE RACE CARD BS. BILL CLINTON WAS THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. QUIT YOUR GD HATRED!
Reply:faye...

how is combining the 1800's with the 1990's?

We will balance between those times, how is Einstein doing with the Atom Bomb?
Reply:The Clintons think lying is Standard Operating Procedure.

I vote for Kristal as Best Answer!!!
Reply:Whether he lied or not does not matter as he is not running for office.
Reply:He didn't lie. MSNBC lies. Sorry!
Reply:i dunno...why did obama lie about denouncing rev. wright???

Is it surprising to you that Bill Clinton has accused Obama of using the "race card" against him?

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Is Bubba's thinking a little twisted here?

Or is it just the usual Clinton tactics of look at the white box, it is black said Bill

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/22...

Is it surprising to you that Bill Clinton has accused Obama of using the "race card" against him?
it's called pass the buck

Hillary learned it from Harry Truman
Reply:Obama's been playing the race card his entire life! how else would he have gotten as far as he as so quickly? He and his behind the scenes handlers knew the time was right to use the "race card" to their political advantage and use it as always to silence the Truth and to cultivate a flock of blind followers many who are on a self indulgent white guilt trip.
Reply:nothing is surprising in politics . Look at some famous celebrities who said that they will not enter in it because the media and the opposition will use any tactic to win.

I personally think the two Candides should unite because together they will make an excellent team which will help in reviving the economy .
Reply:What I think is Bill Clinton is basically running the campaign for hillary. so pretty much hillary is not the one running, bill is.

oh and i am not surprised. people were bound to do the "race card" thing. People try to ignore the racial differences but Bill just has to bring it up again. Great job Bill!
Reply:What surprises me most is the obvious bias of the article. The author misquoted President Clinton in the article to strengthen the point being made. Just LISTEN to the actual interview. The chopped up quotes printed in the article are incredibly misleading.
Reply:Obama, in my personal opinion is racist.

So, no, while I DESPISE both Clintons, it doesn't suprise me that they would accuse Obama of that.
Reply:I think old Bill needs to answer to all the pardons he signed before getting Impeached from office .. That would be a good place for Obama to start smacking back..You know old Bill cannot survive without his Coke drug runners or local nighttime limo hoes.
Reply:Yes -Obama has most definetly use the race card, what planet are you on? 90% of the black people are voting for him cause of that race card. Its sickening what Obama does!
Reply:yesss

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Reply:Surprising? Nope. This would almost be laughable if it weren't so darned twisted. Typical Bill.
Reply:Clinton is just stating the obvious. Wait until the Obama campaign comes around and calls Clinton a racist.
Reply:I am very rarely surprised by much, especially so when it comes to politics.
Reply:Institutional racism. . .look it up!
Reply:Just the same old Huey Long backwoods slime ball politician rhetoric.
Reply:He does people believe in Obama because he can do a speech but at the time of doing what he promised he'll be screwed
Reply:Liberals are hilarious.
Reply:Surreal.
Reply:Mr.Clinton has been proven a liar.A liar to not only the people of the united states,but as well his nation.
Reply:Just as twisted as the oj trial lol
Reply:the clintons are fightign for there lives they are kinda like using anything to get there
Reply:No. With his background, Bubba should go and hide.
Reply:no they are both stupid

Is it really hillary thats playing the race card?

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Obama supporters say that in clintons commercials obama is made to look darker, therefore clinton is playing the race card. When the fact of the matter is that nearly all images in the ad are dark, including those of Ms. Clinton. And dark images are a common technique used in attack ads.

Who are the REAL racists in this???

Is it really hillary thats playing the race card?
The real racist here are the Clinton's. And their supporters don't even know it.

Its in Barack's least interest to draw attention to his race, that's why he never wanted to run as the "black candidate". it was the clintons who tried to make him look like the black candidate. Lucky for him, they failed miserably and he has triumphed.

Vote for Hope!

Italian Americans for Obama 08!
Reply:That is the most idiotic thing ever. Everyone, knows he is black. And, the people who vote for him(not me) don't care. Duh
Reply:The recent racial comments are the straw that broke the back, hillary will concede now.

Has Biliary Clinton played the race card one to many times vs. Obama??

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u gotta believe Bilary put her husband up to these dirty politics:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1...

Has Biliary Clinton played the race card one to many times vs. Obama??
The clintons are scary!!!!?

1.James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an

apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key

witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a

Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she

was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary

Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the

head, ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to

have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the

investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull

resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being

investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with

prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days

later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund

raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found

dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by

Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the

woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey

died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped

her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in

several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little

Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little

Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He

allegedly threatened to reveal this information.

After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his

house.

9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had

a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who

visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging

suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found

dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was

ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if

she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with

Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible

corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson.

Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June,

1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his

fiance.

13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by

jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a

convicted drug distributor.

14-Florence Martin - Accountant %26amp; sub-contractor for the CIA, was related

to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three

gunshot wounds.

15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was

Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the

head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978

until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport

and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,

apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with

Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June

22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet

Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust

Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony

August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron

Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her

bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of

Commerce.

21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang

special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane

crash.

22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care

Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane

crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council

personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no

accident.

24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton

in the trunk of a car left at his

repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a

purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994

when his plane exploded.

27-Kevin Ives %26amp; Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case.

Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport

drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said,

due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys

had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case

died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD

INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a

truck, 7/88.

29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump

in April 1989.

33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death

was due to "natural causes".

34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his

pickup truck in June 1990.

35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed

in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.

37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds

38-Sgt. Brian Hanley

39-Sgt. Tim Sabel

40-Major General William Robertson

41-Col. William Densberger

42-Col. Robert Kelly

43-Spec. Gary Rhodes

44-Steve Willis

45-Robert Williams

46-Conway LeBleu

47-Todd McKeehan
Reply:**** Obama..that freak is going to screw our country.
Reply:The Clintons are willing to win at any cost. They are scary.
Reply:KK are u serious with all of these things on the clintons if you are where are u getting this information from
Reply:The underlying problem is that liberals are fundamentally racist. They are the only people in the US obsessed with race.

Conservatives mostly defend themselves against the obsessive attacks of liberals, otherwise, you'd never see this phenomenon among us.
Reply:She never played the race card at all, the dirt comes out of Obama!! Not Hillary
Reply:And who, pray tell, is this "Biliary Clinton" of which you speak? I am aware of a Hillary Clinton who is running for president but no "Biliary Clinton."
Reply:Yes.

They schemed to keep a racial divide among the voters of this country.

Divide and Conquer was their strategy.

But smart voters saw right through their divisive tactics and rejected it.

We need a united America to solve the ills that plague this country.

All of the divisiveness is tiresome.

And KK, that's some scary stuff you've written. Statistically, it's impossible to believe that all those people associated with the Clintons just happened to die.

Not buying it.
Reply:I absolutely think the race and religion card has been as abused as 'Vote 4 me because I am a woman'. I want to know why Obama is bad and Clinton is so good? From my perspective Senator Obama could be hot pink with purple polka dots and he is still a human being. He is bright and eloquent and for the most part has decent ideas about the future.

With that said, I really liked Bill Clinton as a president despite who he fooled around with while being the president. I liked the economy and the lack of a 97 trillion dollar deficit.

Our great great great grandchildren will not be able to clean up after this administration.
Reply:thank i saved that site it's very interesting to see that the Clinton's have pit some blacks and whites against each other because of race .i mean against the very peoples who got his @ss elected twice it was the african american voters that why the clinton have lost the black vote thier true colors are showing now . but let be real if these voters are that naive and can't see through the clintons dirty politics then thier not mature enough to be voting in this election
Reply:She has not, Hilary and Bill have done more for helping people of color then Obama ever has WAKE UP AMERICA

KK is a little crazy
Reply:actually, if you recall, obama was the first to play the race card. but whatever i dont like either of them.
Reply:Obama got the ball rolling. Its just the Clintons dish it back 10 times harder than Obama did.
Reply:If Hillary want to get out of this hole she dug herself into, Bill needs a muzzle! Hillary will do ANYTHING to win.
Reply:Hilary is wayyyyy to smart! She's orchestrated this whole thing from the beginning and she will continued to "program" Bill to do and say what she wants "done and said!"
Reply:watch this video madtv made of Clinton ten years ago, IT

S LIKE THEY SAW THE FUTURE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBKc9W3Wg...
Reply:Every time they play the race card, it makes them look a little more racist. I suggest they attack the man on the merits.

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Will you vote for Hillary Clinton if John McCain plays the "war card" ?

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Which is what he is doing. And the debt will increase 10 fold.

John McCain is a decent man. But I think he is way to

partisan to work with the Democrats. Especially since we

have had so called progress in the war. His confidence

could become arrogance..... Sounds famillair ? ? And

could strike Iran, at any moment. But Hillary is much smarter,

and tougher on domestic issues. Mainly the economy, too.

A category is which the Clinton Machine excels in. So money,

is the rule at the end of the day. And more are inclined to

have currency over war anyday. This soldier mentallity

could hurt McCain in the end. And that is where Hillary will

dominate him, mind, body, and soul. Will you vote

for Hillary Clinton, if Johnny McCain play out the war card ?

Best answer wins. ~~~

Will you vote for Hillary Clinton if John McCain plays the "war card" ?
I'm voting for Clinton anyway, so yes.
Reply:I won't vote for Hillary under any circumstances.
Reply:The worst person running is Hillary followed by the other Democrats which includes McCain.
Reply:I'm a registered Republican, and if it comes down to that I MIGHT vote for Hillary. I really dislike her policies and truly don't want Bill back in the white house, so I hope it DOESN'T come down to that. However, McCain might well be worse. The war isn't the only issue. And I'm not sure how much better on that topic Hillary actually is.

I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primary; after that we'll see where it goes.
Reply:I will vote for the independent candidate.

McCain is too old and is losing it.
Reply:His stance on the occupation, ( the war was declared won, remember ) really bothers me. And his economics bothers me just as bad. Sad, I really wanted to vote for him since he seems to be the only candidate that is willing to get off of party stances to get things accomplished. So, yes, I would vote for Hillary. Grudgingly. I still have a dream that Edwards will win the nomination. I really don't care how much his haircut costs.
Reply:I would shoot myself first!
Reply:I would not vote for Hillary if she were the only person running for office. I would write in Bongo the bear because he would do a better job than that socialist anti-American Nazi.
Reply:Be concerned, with all your heart, about your freedom. As, these candidates are both the same old people with the same old advisers in past administrations who are taking it away . Freedom is just about all gone... time is short, my friend. Get educated about how virtually EVERY candidate is promoting war and the end of your country and the end of your freedom...all of them except for one.

The forefathers warned about parties dividing the people! Check their voting records. The candidates in Both the parties are the same! They both make government bigger and more powerful, and the last few administrations have created a government that is your MASTER and not your servant.

Now there is only one thing you should be thinking about... Which candidate will preserve your freedom! What is the purpose of govenrment? Should it MAKE you get health care? Should it MAKE you turn in your guns?

View the last video if you'd like to know the problem. Look at the first videos if you'd like to know the solution.

The ideas of freedom will be restored. Let's vote fo No more war, no more unjust income taxes, no more tracking and tracing of everything you do by a government that treats you like the enemy they alone create! Let's vote for freedom!

gcnlive.com wtprn.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbj-bFQsE...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELf6l8Rrs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPij7fyIi...

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=vuBo4E77ZXo
Reply:i disagree. John McCain playing the war card i view as a good thing. him being elected would gurantee a very strong military and the security of the nation.
Reply:Of course, and I will vote for Hillary regardless.
Reply:No. I wouldn't support Hill-Billy for any thing.
Reply:Hillary needs to stay in the kitchen where she belongs!
Reply:Your question is based on the premise that those two will be on the ballot in November. You should clarify that; otherwise it appears that you are confused.

That said, I'd vote for Hillary anyway, no matter what card John "plays."
Reply:I have a feeling that my vote will not help either party. I will most probably write in for Mickey Mouse and see if he can get us out of the two party system.

No votes for Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife.
Reply:I can't stand either of the Democrats right now. And John McCain stands for 100 years of war so I am praying for Bloomberg.
Reply:um,thats what all the republicans are doing except ron paul.

so are u asking are u going to vote for hillary if a republican wins,because they all want war,except paul
Reply:I would not vote for Shrillary under any circumstances!
Reply:Yes, but only if she plays the "honesty"card.
Reply:I will not vote for John McCain or Hillary, but by voting third party, that will be one more vote that Hillary doesn't have to overcome. I'd rather have Hillary than McCain - and I am a pretty hard core conservative.
Reply:There is nothing that could make me vote for Hillary.

Is "1st Black President" Clinton REALLY cynical enough to play the race card?

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Just ask Sistah Souljah.

Is "1st Black President" Clinton REALLY cynical enough to play the race card?
Yes, the Clintons already have.

And there have been several disturbing statements from the Clintons and their supporters regarding "spade work" and "shucking and jiving" - if a Republican had made any of these, there would have been a national uproar.
Reply:DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:well it is quite possible, after all based on my opinion i've watched obama and clinton, hillary tends to flip flop pretty often and shows at least to me she really doesn't have a clue, although she might try to play the race card i'm not sure if it would work in her favor necessarily. on the race card though, i guess it depends on the educated person
Reply:Nobody is playing any race card.....this is another BS-er dreamed up by the right wing talk show nitwits to muddy the water. How far back in history are you guys going to go to take events and quotes out of context? Disgusting! You should be ashamed!
Reply:The only people playing the race card here is Obama's camp. It took a whole lot of twisting and turning to make racism jump out of the statements either Clinton made. I was glad to see so many black leaders standing up the last couple of days and speaking out in defense of the Clintons. This whole thing was complete b.s.
Reply:Obama is the only one playing the race card here.
Reply:I couldn't trust her to play an honest game of shoots %26amp; ladders.
Reply:Nah I think Mrs. Clinton is same ole politics with a new face. I mean come on you gotta have something pretty good to run against the potential first "black" President. Don't you think??? Say maybe a woman. I must say, Obama doesn't seem to be the type wanting riches, he seems to be the type wanting fame. So what better man to have in the corner of the American people than a man who wants to make the history books.
Reply:Well he did. She did too.

"We really, really, REALLY want to win. *tear* Obama is too black to be president! Elect Billary Clinton in 2008!"

They will do almost anything to win. They are politicians, they are playing the game. We'll see how long Obama stays above it. I hope he will. I'm beginning to lose my faith in politicians. When one goes negative about others instead of being positive about themselves its a sure sign of defeat.
Reply:What? Are you talking about Bill or Hillary? And what does being cynical have to do with playing the race card? And what do you mean by playing the race card? Do you mean they are going to urge America to vote for a white person? This question is confusing. Are you high?

Why is the media screaming that Hillary Clinton played the race card against Obama as part of her strategy?

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It really bothers me that all of the so-called unbiased anchors on the major news networks and major news magazines (CNN, MSNBC, Newsweek, Time, etc.) are all flailing around about how the Clinton campaign has used race to marginalize Obama. I thought it was Obama's campaign that accused Hillary of being racist when she made that (honest) remark about MLK Jr. and LBJ. Of course, she had to defend herself against those false charges, and as soon as she does, everyone in the media spins it like she was doing all of this as part of a political calculation to paint Obama as simply the Black candidate. I'm so sick of everyone who is in love with Obama turning around and spinning this as the Clintons being devious, when it was Obama's campaign in SC that printed out 4 pages of why the Clintons were racist in response to her remarks in NH. Puhlease! And then you had all those pundits on tv saying that she won NH bc the people there were racist! Why are people giving Obama a free pass?

Why is the media screaming that Hillary Clinton played the race card against Obama as part of her strategy?
Funny, I have various programs of media on, I also listen to the radio, and read newspapers. Don't hear a bit of screaming.

Why should they be unbiased what ever gave you kiddies that idea? They are privately owned and privately financed. They can say what they want. Don't like it? Turn if off. But puhlease stop saying such silly things and making yourself look so immature.
Reply:She did that even in the early start of her campaign. I remember all of the crap she got over it. I'm surprised she went back to it again after all of the flack she got over it the first time.
Reply:Its the same thing they did to Howard Dean. Its the media. I remember hearing from even the smartest democrats I know, how Dean "blew the campaign" because of his "anger". Of course anyone who saw the Dean video knows his speech was NOTHING like the media portrayed it to be. Same thing here. The media says Clinton played the race card and even the smartest of democrats just buy it, without investigating it themselves. --- Clinton commended LBJ's contribution to the civil rights movement; Obama came back and said that Clinton was somehow degrading all the work that MLK did. So you might even say that Obama was the one who played the race card.
Reply:I feel that the Clintons play dirty, it's as simple as that. And whether or not the Clinton's started the race issue, the media has made it a big deal, and why wouldn't they? This is the first African American in US history that actually looks, sounds, and feels like he can do the job as president. All of the pundits worry about are whether or not blacks will align with Obama because he is part black. Who cares! If he has a good mind, and knowledge of what this country needs then he should have the fair chance to run fort he presidency. I personally think the media is very biased against the Clintons because Hillary isn't doing her fighting for herself, Bill is. And to me that shows weakness.
Reply:Thank you Yummy, It seems that you and I are some of the few who see though the media bias against the Clintons . Politic is hard ball but I have not seem the Clintons side do anything that is racist and this is coming from a black man..
Reply:Because Clinton Inc. has and is playing the race card.
Reply:i heard that media is screaming at obama at using the race card to enegerise the black voters in SC
Reply:It's the only disadvantage to being white . . . no matter how careful you are you can never win a race argument. It's just too explosive for reason.
Reply:She did not play the religion card, republican are not going to shy away from that fight.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon21...
Reply:Have you not been listening to Bill?

Every time he opens his mouth he is talking about race and gender. He even went as far as saying Obama has the black vote and Hillary has the women vote. The more he says it the more people will buy into it. It's called Clinton Stratagy.

Did Obama play the race card on Bill Clinton? Bill thinks so.?

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It takes about 4 minutes to listen to:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/a...

Did Obama play the race card on Bill Clinton? Bill thinks so.?
The kneejerk reaction of calling racist, those who ask valid

questions of the obama hussein regime is wearing thin!

...CHG...
Reply:Of course he did. Anyone with half a lick of reality-driven sense knew they did way back when they did it. I can't believe the press is still asking Bill these ridiculous questions. I would wonder why he still answers them, but if he stopped it would only look worse. So, he answers the question , again, and they print it out of context , again, and the **** starts all over. No race card? Yeah, right. Bill Clinton's a racist? Yeah right. What a load of ****.
Reply:I do believe Obama did. It reminds me of when i was one of maybe 2 black students in class at my rural PA college and all the white professors and sometime students went out of their way not to offend me. In this election Obama has benefited from the media ripping Bill to shreds. Now, no one can criticize him without beind deemed racists. Bill is and never was racist. If he were, wouldn't we have found out LONG ago? Come, get serious.
Reply:Yes, Obama has played the race card on everyone. He brought race into this political race a while back when he said what he did about his grandmother.
Reply:Ha! Yep! Ha! Ha! Ovictim needs to just keep him mouth shut unless he is making a speech. You can tell he is getting mad. Ha! Ha!
Reply:Yes.

Obama just doesn't say it directly, he has his campaign and others do it for him. He's a better politician.
Reply:Bill hasn't always been right this primary season.
Reply:I listened to all of it, I agree with Mr. Clinton, Obama did play the race card.
Reply:Could be since Obama plays the race card every chance he gets.
Reply:Obama is an idiot and if he wins you all get what you deserve
Reply:Why, yes, he did!
Reply:YES I THINK SO..
Reply:I don't think I should take any s*** from Bill Clinton, do you?
Reply:no
Reply:A blog! What a reliable source!

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Will Hillary Clinton now play the race card?

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How exactly? I'm not disagreeing with you, we know politicians would do absolutely anything, but how can she play the race card without her cover being blown? If she does go for it she could mess up even bigger time.

Imagined: He's not accusing, he's posted a question not an opinion.

Will Hillary Clinton now play the race card?
I think her ethical standards are too high for that.
Reply:Obama seems to be giving her a thrashing so far. She still has to put a brave face on, must be a strain,she's so ambitious. Can't see her playing the race card though, no point shooting yourself in the foot.
Reply:I don't trust her at all. Nothing that she does would surprise me,either.
Reply:GET SET FOR THE MUD TO FLY.
Reply:I see her "campaign " playing it at some point.
Reply:I don't think so. Do you think Obama might? That remains to be seen don't you think? Why accuse some one of what they have not yet done?

And I did not say the questioner said she would. But every farmer knows that a seed well planted tends to grow. I pointed out that there is no evidence of her doing that any more then there is of Obama doing that. Same difference.

It goes from "Will she?" to "She probably will." to "She did?" to "She did." in peoples minds. Sort of like that party game "I have a secret" Where the secret is whispered from one person to the next. Then the last person is told and what they heard is allot different than the "original" secret.

Already the false alligations are beginning-I just found this posted question:

"Why do only white people support Obama and why do they claim he represents me?"

I thought I had heard that Bill Clinton had some racial ties in his heredity? Who else has heard that?
Reply:next stop

chicago

oprah

its in the pipeline
Reply:ye bet ya ....sorry couldn't resist.

Probably as they do say she is a scheming control-freak who will stop at nothing in her bid to become the first Mrs President.
Reply:The what now? Why would she do that and how? I don't know much about card games but she certainly won't play the Queen of Hearts.

Aw c'mon, I'm just playin'!

Is Bill Clinton playing the race card?

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In response to a question about whether Obama had beaten “two Clintons” as opposed to just Hillary, Bill Clinton replied: “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice, in ’84 and ’88. And he ran a good campaign. Senator Obama’s run a good campaign here, he’s run a good campaign everywhere.” The implication was clear: Obama is a black candidate whom blacks disproportionately support.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f2dc6b0e-cc84-...

Is Bill Clinton playing the race card?
A racially charged statement like that from former president clinton clearly indicates his frustration in his quest for a third term presidency. He is fast becoming a shameless as hole and a terrible disgrace to the american people.
Reply:I personally don't believe he was in that particular statement. However it could be said that it was belittling to the black voters by saying that they were voting form Obama simply because he was black, instead of because he had the best ideas for the change they believed was best for the country, and that would only be true if that was not the truth . Seeing as how Obama and Clinton's ideas and policy is basically the same. I believe his statement was merely based on the statistics. Personally i believe both Obama and the Clintons have been playing the race card in one form or another. A little immature for people that are vying for the presidency of the untied states don't you think?
Reply:the clintons dont have my vote

i see you cant sleep brad
Reply:President Clinton was just stating a fact in response to a reporter's question. Political analyst %26amp; commentator Pat Buchanon also said the same thing.

Nothing wrong with stating facts, but it's not fair when the media distorts it into something perceived as divisive.

If Obama said that Jessie Jackson won twice in SC during his 2 presidential campaigns - no one would have said anything.
Reply:No, off course not.
Reply:nonot at all, if anybody is using its Obama
Reply:No. The race card has been the exclusive province of Barack Hussein Obama and his surrogates from day one. Obama has a stacked deck full of race cards yet to play.

My proof? The results of the South Carolina primary. Blacks voted right along color lines.
Reply:Obama's the one playing the race card--and it's working. He has us looking for some sort of racist fault to find with the Clintons who have been there for African Americans for decades.

Don't be so so defensive; that's just what Obama is setting you up to be. I'm not convinced that once he's in the White House he'll be as pro African Americans as he'd like us to believe. He has nothing in common with the typical black American family; he was raised in comfort by a white mother and never had the American black person's experience of discrimination and unemployment.

If you think he's going to make things any more equal, you're kidding yourself.
Reply:The Clintons make me laugh. Staging questions (the crying incidents) and other events (sexist rally protestors - "Iron my Shirt") to make themselves look good. After the Iowa speech they were surrounded with all old people, and the news outlets noticed and were copying it, now they're trying to copy Obama, as in these past speeches they've made sure to fill up the background with young people and minorities.
Reply:Yes he is playing the race card hoping that racial sensitivities will generate the white vote. Lame!
Reply:I doubt it but he is being inflamatory! Below the belt punches and acting very un-Presidential.
Reply:The answer to your question is clear. Yes, he is.

Pat Buchanan just compared Bill Clinton to George Wallace?

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Pat said that it is getting so nasty. Bill Clinton is sounding like

George Wallace for goodness sake!

Do you think Bill being the first Black President, will take offense to

his remarks. Will the Black People revoke Bill's

Official

"Black Peoples Credit Card"

Pat Buchanan just compared Bill Clinton to George Wallace?
I must say I voted for Bill Clinton twice. Right now I am ashamed that I did. I am so disappointed in him and so sorry I ever voted for him. I always defended him and thought the republicans were picking on him. Now I see the light.
Reply:Oh my Gosh. He's right! I remember. I didn't think of that.
Reply:There is a strong comparison between Bill Clinton and George Wallace.

Clinton is following the election plans of George Wallace. Wallace was a popular governor of Alabama and when he terms were completed his wife ran for governor...

The story of a husband campaigning for his wife to take his old office is being repeated.
Reply:Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Pat Buchanan is just as much of a racist as George Wallace was. When the Republican mouthpiece PB smears Clinton like that you can bet they think they will have an easier time defeating Obama than Clinton!
Reply:Pat Buchanan saying Bill Clinton sounds like George Wallace is one of the signs of the apocalypse.

Bill Clinton is like most white people. Nice to them, until they try to take a white persons job.
Reply:Bill will be alright. Just shows he can't take black folks for granted. And white people were hip to his game.
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Reply:maybe he was confused. just another reason for global warming.
Reply:what would you expect from a rush limbaugh wanna-be?

Anyone have the Universal Health Care Card that Hilary Clinton promised us 15 years ago? I never got mine.....

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The Republicans killed it.

Anyone have the Universal Health Care Card that Hilary Clinton promised us 15 years ago? I never got mine.....
Nope....but I hope we see em soon... might go thru this time
Reply:You never got one because hillary took a "donation of $900,000.00" from the health care corporations to be quiet it about it.

Why do you think one day they are talking about pushing along and 3 days later you never heard about it again from them!

You might want to read the Award Winning "Death of Democracy: The Erosion of Freedom Doctrine of the Second American Revolution" by J.C. Jake Laughton

Available on Amazon
Reply:Good thing too.

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What do people mean with the "race card" from bill clinton?

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I know Clinton is not a racist. His history proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt. He did say some things that were analytical and true about the campaigns. Truth is not allowed.

Senator Clinton's report card...?

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She's been there in her New York office for years. I'm hearing from New Yorkers that she hasn't done anything worth talking about for NY since she's been there. So does any body really believe that she'll do something for America? Maybe her husband can just tell what to do every day in the white house.

Senator Clinton's report card...?
to fish: i've got an issue. does anybody remember how after the clintons left the white house that they had to ask hillary to please return the furniture she took from the lincoln room? how about whitewater? not ranting, but things like this disturb me. they give me clear vision through the haze of topics and who supports what and why. i only vote on character, and i've only voted once in my life. these days it seems like nobody can even recognize when someone is being earnest, candid and humble. these things used to mean something to the american people, now they are considered characteristic traits of being a moron. what happened to us and do we deserve to be the most powerful nation the world has ever seen? makes me wonder if we shouldn't have stayed attached to england and the crown, where chivalry and fortitude won the day.
Reply:I don't think. To liberal for me. Don't like anything about her or anything she stands for.
Reply:She promised upstate 200,000 new jobs. We've lost almost 50,000. The press NEVER reports this! NEVER. She gets front page, smiling photo, positive headlines no matter what. Blasted Obama for wanting to negotiate with Rogue nations. FRONT page! Does anyone remember when she blasted Bush for refusing to negotiate with rogue nations? It's unbelievable how she has the liberals in her back pocket.

How hard is it for a Democrat to win in New York? That's why they came here!
Reply:If she has done nothing for New york how come she got re elected????

Those who ***** about her today are the same who voted or her yesterday.

She is good, no she is not a saint, and she would get the job done here and abroad.

I would trust Hillary more then i would trust any other of those lying fake hipocritical politicians ... why? because at least i know where to stand with Hillary ... again she is not clean or a saint but i already know that ... not something we can say about the other guys. All fakes!

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Do you think Hillary Clinton has hired a team to follow Bill to make sure he doesn't pickup a new girlfriend?

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I read this in an online newspaper. He has to bring home the report card of a boyscout or he'll be out on the street. It stands to reason that her campaign could sink faster than the Titanic if he's caught with someone.

Do you think Hillary Clinton has hired a team to follow Bill to make sure he doesn't pickup a new girlfriend?
Hillary and Bill are deeply in love, he may at one time have had a insignificant indiscretion, but that was never anything for us to worry about.
Reply:No. Just to make sure it doesn't become public.
Reply:Well, if it was in an online newspaper it MUST be true. Sorry for the sarcasm, but with their schedules and the scads of people who surround them at all times, it's unlikely that Bill could manage a private telephone conversation without ten people hearing. He's a cad, but he's not stupid. He wants Hillary in office very badly, he's just not dumb enough to screw that up now. Think of it from another direction as well. How many Clinton Haters do you know? We could fill Yankee Stadium with the ones just on YA. There are people who desperately don't want Hillary in the Oval Office and I'm pretty sure they have people trying to catch him at something, anything, to throw a monkey wrench in the works. If they haven't rooted it out, it's not happening.
Reply:I'm sure she will try.

She might not succeed though.

Slick Willie is pretty slick.
Reply:Yeah.... and the team is hot on his trail and they're sick and tired of hanging out in trailer parks, where he picks up most of his women. They're also sick of following those women to Jenny Craig.
Reply:yeah, she's gotta try to win afterall
Reply:Yeah she hired barak obama
Reply:you better believe she has him on a short leash.......
Reply:It is not Hillarys fault that Bill had displayed bad behavior in the past. Their marital concerns should not concern you
Reply:Just because you used the name Clinton doesn't mean this is a political question.
Reply:It would make sense for Hillary to get a crew to follow Bill. After all, he nearly (and in my opinion should have) been impeached on that subject. However, I would think she might be worrying about other things other than that being as busy as she is with the running for President. You are right though about her sinking way down if Bill is caught cheating, so she might do something close to the lines of what you suggested.

Did Obama fall for a cheap trick from the Clinton campaign?

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If so how can we support a candidate who would play the race card and be fooled so easily and how can we support a candidate who would set up such a dirty trick no matter how smart it was?

Did Obama fall for a cheap trick from the Clinton campaign?
Yes, shows his political inexperience and she knew it would. It also exposed her for the wicked way in which she would do anything to get Power. Like I told the voters of Michigan, "beware of what you ask for, you may get it." Now they are dealing with Gov. Jennifer Granholm (d) and the state is in disarray. They got what they asked for.,...
Reply:This election is up to the media and no one else. People vote based on the news and spin they read. The media loves Hillary.
Reply:First thing anybody who is smart knows not to trust politicians no mater what party they are from. Second Obama and the Media started the race card, unfortunately it is back firing. That is why I was for Hillary all along.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/15/o...
Reply:Like I said, the man lacks experience.
Reply:I am a registered Republican and long-time political activist who has supported Barack Obama from day one.

People throughout the United States have been playing the race card against Barack ever since he announced. The Clinton campaign even had to fire people associated with their effort for sending out hoax emails about him being Muslim.

If candidates are speaking the truth, I don't fault them. The truth hurts and nowhere is that more true than in the middle of a Presidential campaign. On the other hand, falsehoods deliberately sent using emails or forums such as Yahoo have no place in a civilized society.

Frankly, I find it refreshing that Barack can be fooled by seasoned warriers like Hillary Clinton. That's why he's the real candidate of change.
Reply:first answerer: idiots believe the media spin.

This race, Americans have the chance to PROVE that the power in this country belongs to the PEOPLE.

RON PAUL...thats all.

vote every dem and republican out of congress and make a point that MATTERS.
Reply:obvious republican...shut it
Reply:Hillary is like a mad dog, she will do ever thing it takes to get the meat. She is nothing less than a thug/gangster, she will hurt you..

Are obama and Clinton the same , their policy purposals are pretty much the same?

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if they are not the same but still part of the same party why do people attack McCain , and go to high school name calling and say itll be bush all over.

if you arent willing to say obama and clinton , why can you just throw the bush card at McCain?

he may before some of bushs policies but he has many good things he has some great ideas and works wwith both parties.

do those that bash McCain do any research on the man ?

Are obama and Clinton the same , their policy purposals are pretty much the same?
I totally agree with you. McCain has worked across party lines in the past. He has even worked with Sen. Obama. McCain isn't the senile old man that people try to make him out to be.
Reply:Their policies are identical, they both are both very liberal with very socialistic philosophies.

They both are trying to further their own egos rather than give real concern to the American citizens.

If they aren't throwing dirt at each other, they busy building either racist or sexist situations. The democrats were the one's that started and are continuing the racism or the sexism.

Yes they both are bashing Bush, but they are forgetting that under Bush our economy has continued to grow for 48 months, longer than any other administration.

Our oil problems lies totally with the democratic party

The most important difference, the democrats want the citizens beholding to them, the republican want the citizens to be proud and stand on there own.
Reply:No they aren't the same. He's a racist but if he weren't, he might make a good candidate. She on the other hand is just plain crazy and there's no getting away from being crazy.
Reply:Yes, they're very much the same and I don't agree.

That's why I'm voting for McCain !!
Reply:No they are not the same...

Hillary doesn't go to Hate church's and click shoes...

while boasting each other gracefully under spewing words of hatred!

Sorry!
Reply:15 months into the democratic campaign and I have nothing positive left to say about either of the candidates. They beat it all out of me.

See shrieking panda's answer. People firmly believe these rumors and sound bytes, and even though they've been completely debunked, they continue to defend these positions to the death. I just don't want to deal with these people anymore.
Reply:There is one difference. Hillary has Bill. This will make or break her in the long run.
Reply:Obama is honest and Hillary is wicked and conniving

Big difference
Reply:I never bashed McCain. I respect the fact that he fought in Vietnam. I just don't understand why he's for a similar war in Iraq (one we can't win).

Obama is a lying racist jerk who would say and do anything to win. Out of the three, Hillary is the most presidential.
Reply:Their platforms are largely the same - fairly socialist in their approach.

Hillary has more experience. Obama is going to have trouble overcoming his racist, anti-America image - especially after he called his grandmother "typical white woman" and not wearing the flag pin, not having his hand over his heart during the National Anthem and now his adviser saying "G.D. AMERICA!" repeatedly during a sermon.

I believe McCain is the best choice of the three and agree that people need to take a good hard look at his accomplishments.
Reply:Too many people in this country are struggling with health care issues

In short a large part of our great nation is left with out it

Hillary is the only candidate with a set plan that will work

Also McCain wants to leave troops over there too long that's not a good thing for our economy or our families

Who here wants too tell a spouse or partner there loved one has to stay over there

We need our families back home

and a plan has to made for them when they return too.
Reply:Yes except for healthcare Hilary's policy is faulty. Obama's is better America
Reply:Hillary knows how to run a country with a messed up economy... Obamas a first timer. He's not going to make changes soon. your going to have to wait until he gets use to the whole new "presidential" world.

As for McCain he's polices are messed up. He supports to many rich Seniors. His plans aren't backed up and he's got no way to "realistically" strengthen the economy. Bush walked into the white house with similar plans.

Those are just the small defects he's got in his policies. Wait till you hear the big ones.

Forget about Michael Jackson, what do you think of Hilary Clinton?

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Is she fake too? At first, she was yelling and screaming as a politician; lately because of defeat or she is playing sympathy card, her voice is getting softer and softer, almost like weak person that can't lead the country any more. What is your input?

Forget about Michael Jackson, what do you think of Hilary Clinton?
Hmmm.... they do have a lot in common, don't they?
Reply:Calculating professional politician.
Reply:I am sure she is exhausted, disappointed and frustrated. What you heard in her voice was the accumulation of all these pressures.

She is human.
Reply:She is not fake. She is expressing herself. She sees that the boat has passed her by and it hurts her.

Lay off of her now. She's done, no use piling on.
Reply:she is manipulating, calculating and cold. I do not trust her. she is a die in the wool Socialist who only cares about herself and will do whatever it takes to get power. she scares me to death.
Reply:Oh yes she is a fake.
Reply:She's probably a bigger laughingstock now, given her loss.

And she was going to be "inevitable."

The biggest bust since New Coke!

The public hates it when a phony is being shoved down their throats.
Reply:Try anything that works . Say anything , promise anything , do anything that will pull in the votes . Once in , do as you please . That's politics .
Reply:She's done. Somebody turn her over so she doesn't burn! Obama is the man!
Reply:She looks like road kill...be interesting to see if they can pull a victory or two out of the hat and stop the obama love fest...From afar it looks like the lefties have found their savior in obama.
Reply:it's amazing how someone with such a long list of coincidental suicides and political incompetence has gotten so far.
Reply:Sorry.

Gotta go with a complete fake.
Reply:Hillary is probably the most fake person on the planet. She should go to Hollywood, not Washington.
Reply:It's pretty pathetic and so is she.
Reply:Hillary should go back to the sausage factory.
Reply:she's going to have emotional breakdowns if she ever gets into office, and then she'll end up haveing sympathy for people we're at war with. she drives me nuts, i'm waiting for the nervous breakdown in the middle of a debate. just wait, it'll happen. then people will feel bad and still vote for her, just watch.

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Hillary Clinton playing the race card?

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lol ... "playing the race card"

Doesn't it seem like Hillary Clinton is calling "working class whites" racists. She has been campaigning the last couple of weeks on the premise that blue collar white people "dont connect" with Obamas message. So she is better candidate because blue collar whites would rather vote for Mccain than Obama. Is this newspeak for blue collar workers are racist?

Why haven't blue collar workers taken offense to the implication?

Now she is saying she is staying in the race because anything can happen, and then gave RFK's assassination as an example. Is she implying some racists wacko might try and kill Obama? Is that what she is hoping for?

Hillary Clinton playing the race card?
I wish it would somehow be revealed that all politicians are swimming around in the same ocean of deceit.
Reply:That depends upon whether or not your implication is that Obama's campaign is running a vote for the Black guy campaign.

How could the "working class whites" be racist if they are voting primarily on the issues?

The only way they could be racist is if you, and the Obama camp think they are only voting against the Black guy!

I'd say Hillary has it right, and you need to look at things a little bit farther than the color of one's skin!
Reply:Because she has been playing the race card every since Obama has beaten her in the popular votes. She is an opportunist that lies about anything to get her way. She once was shot at by snipers, she grew up in the hill of Pennsylvania in a log cabin where she learned to shoot a gun, she is not an elitist which is why she graduated from Yale, blah blah. Her lies are almost over.
Reply:First of all I think it's all a Big joke there is no perfect candidate anymore just candidate that need help themselves so how are they going to help us again! But I'm not racists I just think McCain is the best out of what we have to choose from.But if not McCain then Hillary due to the fact I think Obama is to good to be true with all thous lies.
Reply:I think they all play the card..even Obama. Seems like he focuses more on his African-American(or black) side rather than his white side. He's both! Can't he remember that?

I certainly don't wish Obama to be assasinated. how awful. May God protect him. Anyway, I think these candidates will say just about anything to make the other candidates look bad so that they can be elected. Right?
Reply:Honestly, she can say what she wants..I don't care. I'm already behind Obama and have been since Edwards dropped out. Nothing Hillary or McCain says is going to change my mind.

I think maybe she is tired, broke, and worried because when this started...everyone said she had the whole thing in the bag and it didn't turn out that way. Stress and exhaustion and desperation may be to blame for her slip of the tongue. OR maybe she just wanted to put it out there for her own reasons. Only she knows. It certainly didn't help her case any, though.

I don't like that she said it....it was tactless and very unPC.
Reply:Hillary has been trumped on every hand.

The hard working American (wink, wink) Shilobeth is all she has left.

The RFK thing was as weak a shot as I have ever seen. It is right up there with Willy Horton.

She will make a good Secretary of State.
Reply:She keeps playing the race card over and over. She's getting desperate and delusional.
Reply:funny, isn't that what Obama do when his sob-stories doesn't work.
Reply:Hillary is my girl. Why are you so worried?
Reply:The thought has crossed my mind that Obama could be a target. One of the reasons that Colin Powell did not run for President was because he did not want to be a target. He said that publicly. what she is saying is true and freedom of speech. As far as blue collar workers go..most are in labor unions. Obama is basically non union. He doesn't use union employees on the campaign trail to set up and tear down his events unless he has to because the employees have a contract with the venue. McCain and Clinton both use union employees everywhere. Blue collar workers know this. they get newsletters from the AFLCIO telling them these things and they are true. Oprah is 100% non union. She is one of the few that had new shows during the writers strike. BET is non union. They refuse to hire union personell and vigorously fight when the employees try to organize. These are people who can easily afford to pay people better wages with better health care but they are greedy. They also hire an extra ordinary amount of blacks. It seems funny to me that people who have complained about fair work standards an equality have a different point of view when it comes to their money. Blue collar workers understand this. that is why most do not support Obama. It has little to do with race. most Dems and a lot of Republicans are sick of the current administration. They just want to make an informed and what they feel is the proper decision for the future and as tax payers and it is absolutely their right.
Reply:In this fight to the bitter end, Clinton has played every, single card that there is to play in this seeminly losing battle. Other answerers have made really good points with the union argument but I'm sorry to say that most people are not as well informed as undecided and I really don't think that is what she's referring to when she says that Obama cannot connect with them. Sure, I'm sure there are some blue collar workers who don't support Obama for the reasons stated but lack of union workers is not the reason that most are not supporting him. That is not to say that all blue collar whites are racist rather I am saying that to deny that Obama is losing votes based on his race is just as naive as saying that he's not gaining votes for his race.

For others who say that he seems to forget his white side, I find that very convenient. Anyone who had no knowlege of his background who saw him walking down the street would say that he was a black man. There can be little doubt that he has been viewed as and treated as a black man his whole life. This is the US and while we'd like for things to be different, in this country most people have to make a choice, especially people of his generation. You can't have it both ways.
Reply:She is telling the truth......White working class racist dont like Obama and everyone knows it! Its not her fault that many working class people dont appeal to Obama, she is just telling like it is! Youre statement is IGNORANT! HILLARY '08!!!

Is Clinton's Use of the "Fear Card", a Sign of Desperation?

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Yes.

Is Clinton's Use of the "Fear Card", a Sign of Desperation?
More likely it's a sign of their membership in the CFR.
Reply:I do not see it that way. You are being warned against an Obama Nation with god Obama and his cult.

If your god Obama is nominated, rest assured the Democratic Party will lose to mainstream America in the general election.
Reply:That can't be true. Democrats don't fear monger. (sarcasm)
Reply:No.

How could it be when that's what george w bush has been using ever since 9/11?

Or are you finally admitting bush is desperate?
Reply:Just about everything she is doing lately seems to be "a sign of desperation." I just hope that the primaries on Tuesday put her, and us, out of our misery.
Reply:What fear card... give an example or a ling.. or else don't make things up!

Hillary Clinton and voodoo juju?

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I heard that when the Bill Clinton sent the Marines to invade Haiti, the Haitians owe the Clintons voodoo support. Think Hillary has a voodoo card up her sleeve still.

Who's with me on this conspiracy.

"Obama could get zombiefied."

Whoa dude, spooky.

Hillary Clinton and voodoo juju?
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!
Reply:Hillary's voodoo has backfired on her She has endorsed Obama!

Obama 2008!

Ebony %26amp; Ivory President!
Reply:Isn't obama already a zombie. All he keeps chanting is CHANGE
Reply:I think they already used it on McCain.
Reply:umm... what?!

do you mind re-phrasing?

it seems as if the clintons will turn obama into a zombie...
Reply:too much voodoo going around
Reply:Theres hope for this country yet

Will John McCain or Hillary Clinton play the Holy Ghost card?

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Will John McCain or Hillary Clinton play the Holy Ghost card like George Bush, Jr. did as in: God told him that he would be the next president of the United States and God told him to invade Iraq?

Will John McCain or Hillary Clinton play the Holy Ghost card?
Hilary won't, she's got the liberals and they don't care about God so much. McCain....he doesn't have to now. He's got the nomination.
Reply:I think you can only play that card once
Reply:McCain - since he's about to die and all, he'll play the sweet old grampa roll.
Reply:McCain,most assuredly.Clinton will(they all have to pay lip service anyway),but not so much.McCain is not a retard like our present simple-person.

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Who else thinks that Clinton would make a terrible president?

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I hope she doesn't start playing the 'vote for me to become the first woman president and make history' card.It would be a shame for anyone to vote for her just because shes a woman.

Who else thinks that Clinton would make a terrible president?
I agree, bring any other woman besides her
Reply:I am not voting for her.
Reply:well im only 14 and i dont really care about politics like at all but i think she wud make a great president!! well i guess anyone is better than bush but still...i either want her or the black guy 2 win. im tired of all these old white guys running the country!
Reply:I'm voting for her because I liked Bill. Wouldn't it be fun to have Bill as the first lady? Anyway...I figure anybody is better than Bush, so no matter who gets chosen we'll be better off.
Reply:I would vote for her but only because when her and her husband was in office we were out of debt and was not at war with anyone.

She did good the first time and will do good this time.. What happened with her and her husband has nothing to do with the way our country was ran..
Reply:I think any politician will make a terrible president, regardless of name, sex, race, religion (of course the religionist-politicians will be worse).
Reply:I support her 100%.
Reply:I doooo

Ron Paul would be the best
Reply:She is going to be nothing like Bill Clinton.... trust me..

Besides that shes a baby killer and wants to get rid of all guns... when studies show the more guns people have the less crime ironic but its true it keeps the criminals at bay.

If you take the guns away from the people then the only ones who will have guns will be the Government and the Criminals....
Reply:I'm not voting for her because she's a woman.

I'm voting for her because I like a lot of her ideas she has for this country.....

Plus, she's not a Bible Pusher (a big bonus for me with any candidate).
Reply:She's better than any republican.
Reply:Me. She scares me.

What do you think of Hilary Rodham Clinton Osama bin Laden ad that ran in PA? Tell me what you think?

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YouTube - Hillary Clinton uses Osama Bin laden in Politics ... How low would Hillary Clinton go to win Ouch? And she wonders why people don't like her. Enough with the dirty politics of fear, we want a politics that ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azVAkWfJP...

Hillary uses image of Osama bin Laden in 11th hour ad | Terr... As Senator Clinton and Barack Obama scrambled for undecided votes, the former first lady had invoked images of terror chief Osama bin Laden in a new ...www.headlinegenie.com/terrorism/hilla... Playing the bin Laden card?

The Clinton campaign is starting to develop an m.o. -- unveil a provocative new ad in the 11th hour, right before an important contest ... As Chris Cillizza explained, “The ad hits virtually every possible emotional touchstone for voters from 18 to 80 — the bombing of Pearl Harbor, long gas lines in the 1970s, Osama bin-Laden and Hurricane Katrina. Clinton Resorts to Scare Tactics Yet Again!!!

What do you think of Hilary Rodham Clinton Osama bin Laden ad that ran in PA? Tell me what you think?
Hillary plays on some Whites "Fear". and the "Racism"of Older Whites. Plus older white woman who had hard times during the woman's lib era want a woman as President!

Plain %26amp; Simple!You got some responses how good your photo looks I agree! Bless you Obama supporter Stay strong!

Obama 2008!

Ebony %26amp; Ivory President!
Reply:She ran the ad then won PA by 10 points. Just because you run a fear ad doesnt mean ppl are going to vote for you. The fact that she ran fear ads ahead of the TX, OH, and PA primaries and won those primaries by big margins means the ads worked in her favor.

Ask yourself why these ads didn't swing ppl to Obama.
Reply:Quite right ! You're absolutely right...It's intolerable...O'Bama also made some awkward statements during campaign...I believe all this competition between the two of them only goes in favor of the conservatives, who will win elections anyway...
Reply:What a great ad! Why are you focussing on a tiny part of the ad which outlined the challenges we face as a nation. How can you ignore Osama Bin Ladin as an enemy. Perhaps you are a fan, I am not.
Reply:hopefully barrack can answer the questions against mccain because this is exactly the adds he will be getting the whole way through. It is fears of the inexperienced running. It may not be fair but he needs to figure out an effective fight.
Reply:You are desperate and I hope you don't believe what you're trying to point out. The truth is that Osama is a terrorist that wants to destroy America. Hello!!!
Reply:I like Hilliary and I like her ad. What a surprise a presidential candidate talking about a terrorist leader.

You are just a sore loser because Hillary won PA.
Reply:I think her new motto is... "Solutions to bring back segregation on day one."

That might sound harsh, but it just might have some truth too it.
Reply:She's horrible, but we already knew that.
Reply:that now superdelegates know that if they not vote for clinton they can kiss goodbye the white house
Reply:I like hillary and I think youre ****** sexy
Reply:She's a dirty rat...And I truly hate every inch of her flesh...

I cant wait until she goes down...
Reply:I don't know about all that......but if that picture is of you......your are as fine as the hair on kitty paws!!!

Why did Hillary Clinton play the race card in her speech on Monday?

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Because she's a liberal and that's what liberals do.

Why did Hillary Clinton play the race card in her speech on Monday?
Because she has nothing positive to say about herself so she complains about others.
Reply:to make sure that no more of the african american vote moves towards conservatism like in the '04 election. The shift of 8 or 9% of the African American vote helped to push Mr. Bush into the white house.
Reply:Because when liberals are losing or cant debate something on its own merit they bring up the race card. Its a tatic that is getting really old.
Reply:She said something about white people?
Reply:To be precise, she vaguely used the race card. A plantation's meaning can mean many things including race.

And race was her intended meaning.

she's gearing up for her 08 presidential run. she's trying to appeal to the voters of her audience.

Newt Gingrich used the exact same analogy in 1996 when the Dems controlled Congress.
Reply:Well, she IS a moron.
Reply:She is positioning herself for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States and is needing the Black vote to achieve that goal. Her stance now will make other people remember her or at least think about who she is at that time.

Typically, Democratic candidates are more on Domestic Policy that is for the benefit of all people, whereas Republican candidates are more on Foreign Policy for the benefit of the nation as a whole. This example (the lack of response creating undue hardships for the people in New Orleans) is considered a Domestic issue, and as she is a Democratic Senator, she is considered "outspoken" on that point. If this was an issue that related to foreign policies, her opinions would not be nearly as important or publisized.

Why do Barack Hussein Obama supporters object to usage of his middle name yet in the same breath use Bush's ,

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Clinton's, and others so frequently? Does he earn a pass because his middle name is Islamic and also used by more than a few terrorists? Are they that ashamed of his African Islamic father, and why does his own mother stand up when his camp speaks about the race card?

Why do Barack Hussein Obama supporters object to usage of his middle name yet in the same breath use Bush's ,
Having the middle name Hussein is unlucky for Obama. It doesn't help that his last name rhymes with Osama. Plus, his father was a communism-supporting African Muslim who abandoned his wife and son and then went on to have two wives in Africa. Kind of disturbing, huh?
Reply:Because George W. Bush goes by that name. It's the same as H. Ross Perot not using his first name, Henry. I think we should use the name that people wish to go by.

Maybe his middle name, because of what it apparently is connoting to some, does make him feel uncomfortable. Maybe it's use as a tool to infer a type of underhanded discrimination is something he'd rather steer away from. After all, people of all faiths, races, names, genders, etc., have just as much a right to be president as the Georges, Wiliams, Johns, and so forth.

Maybe we should just call him Barack Obama, as we call George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Ronald Reagan, and not Georgie, William, James, or Ron.
Reply:Now that is a fallacy.

Hillary's middle name is not used in any way shape or form. From the time she married Bill, she had used her maiden name hyphenated so Rodham-Clinton ( her middle name is Diane)

We don't hear George Walker Bush, we hear George W. to differentiate which President Bush is being referred to. Only Obama has his middle name used with frequency and denigration.

His mother has been dead for over 10 years so, you seemed to have missed that point. He has spoken about her and her battle with cancer and the other battle with the health insurance industry. So unless, someone held a seance to talk with her, then she would not be able to speak.
Reply:Nobody refers to Bush or Clinton by their middle names.....

When is the last time you heard some refer to Bush as "walker" or clinton "diane?"

Oh, you meand his initial? Its a term of endearment going back to his texas days.

If people didn't use Barack's middle name in a negative manner, others wouldn't care. its just that racist people can't help but show their racism....not sure why.
Reply:I hear very few people use Clinton's (either Bill or Hillary's) middle name.

Bush's middle name is used to differentiate him from his father. And most people call him "George W. Bush" or just "Dubya", a nickname that comes from his Texas days.
Reply:I have no problem as long as you do the same with the rest of the candidates.

Do you call Bill Clinton by his full name "William Jefferson Clinton".

If not, then you are doing that with deceptive motives.
Reply:people just dont like his name ...

Does the black vote matter anymore?

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Blacks comprise only 12% of the American population.

With all of the controversies surrounding Rev. Wright, the negativity between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama's campaigns, Bill Clinton's statements in South Carolina, the effects of Hurricane Katrina on Louisiana and George Bush's response, the acquittal of police officers in the shooting of Sean Bell in NYC, etc.,

It seems that while many blacks are "singing the same old song" about discrimination, the majority white population is claiming that those black voices of dissent are radical views or are "playing the race card"

Do you think politicians care what African Americans think?

Does the black vote matter anymore?
yeah but are blacks like 50% in South carolina and high proportions in other southern states? politicans do care where they vote.
Reply:It seems the news cares what their opinions are
Reply:No

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Why do libs avoid President Bush's Accomplishments?

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President Bush's Accomplishments

Spotted at Rightnation.us and GOPUSA.com reprinted here for your pleasure. I encourage people who support Bush to learn how effective our President has been, and liberals ought to browse this too. Just remember, the liberal media can't cover up the truth of his accomplishments. The Bush Administration 2001-2004

Abortion %26amp; Traditional Values

1. Banned Partial Birth Abortion — by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade. 2. Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy. 3. By Executive Order (EO), reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act. 4. By EO, prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services. 5. Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals. 6. Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004. 7. Supports the Defense of Marriage Act — and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman. 8. Requires states to conduct criminal background checks on prospective foster and adoptive parents. 9. Requires districts to let students transfer out of dangerous schools. 10. Requires schools to have a zero-tolerance policy for classroom disruption (reintroducing discipline into classrooms). 11. Signed the Teacher Protection Act, which protects teachers from lawsuits related to student discipline. 12. Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.

Budget, Taxes %26amp; Economy

1. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history. 2. Supports permanent elimination of the death tax. 3. Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks. 4. Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority. 5. In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty. 6. Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people. 7. Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts. 8. Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America. 9. Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals. 10. Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains. 11. Signed trade promotion authority. 12. Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches. 13. Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States. 14. Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes. 15. Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home. 16. Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled. 17. Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child. 18. Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000. 19. Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans. 20. Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.

Character %26amp; Conduct as President

1. Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the presidency. 2. Has reintroduced the mention of God and faith into public discourse. 3. Handled himself with enormous courage, dignity, grace, determination, and leadership in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 hijackings and anthrax attacks. He almost single-handedly held this country together during those searing days:

Just three days after the attacks, in his address at the National Cathedral, the President reassured the nation when he said: "War has been waged against us by stealth and deceit and murder. This nation is peaceful, but fierce when stirred to anger. This conflict was begun on the timing and terms of others. It will end in a way, and at an hour, of our choosing."

On Friday, September 14, 2001, President Bush visited Ground Zero. Standing on a crushed and burned fire engine atop the smoldering pile at Ground Zero, he put his arm around a retired firefighter who had volunteered to help, and began speaking to the crowd. Rescue workers shouted that they could not hear him. Someone handed him a small American flag and bullhorn. The President spontaneously shouted: "I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon." The crowd roared with cheers and chants of "USA! USA! USA!" Then he raised that American flag and rallied a nation.

Education %26amp; Employment Training

1. Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations). The very liberal California Teachers union is currently running radio ads against the accountability provisions of this Act. 2. Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education. 3. Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.) 4. Requires annual reading and math tests in grades three through eight. 5. Requires states to participate in the National Assessment of Education Progress, or an equivalent program, to establish a national benchmark for academic performance. 6. Requires school-by-school accountability report cards. 7. Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems. 8. Increased funding for the Troops-to-Teachers program, which recruits former military personnel to become teachers.

Environment %26amp; Energy

1. Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty. 2. Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc. 3. Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives. 4. Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops. 5. Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger. 6. Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger. 7. Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California. 8. Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.

Defense %26amp; Foreign Policy

1. Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom. 2. Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured. 3. Leader by leader and member by member, al Maida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaeda leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaeda leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror. 4. Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed. 5. Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network. 6. Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century. 7. Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses. 8. Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency. 9. Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU. 10. Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year. 11. Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia. 12. Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ. 13. Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command. 14. Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs. 15. Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry. 16. Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006. 17. Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy. 18. Ordered a review of overseas deployments. 19. Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year. 20. Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports. 21. Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.

Globalization %26amp; Internationalism

1. Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant). 2. Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court. 3. Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).* 4. The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer. 5. Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country."

Government Reform

1. Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. This weakens public-sector unions and cuts undeserved pay raises. 2. Initiated review of all federal agencies with the goal of eliminating federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of the federal government while increasing private sector jobs. 3. Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.* 4. Ordered each agency to draft a five-year plan to restructure itself, with fewer managers. 5. Converted federal service contracts to performance-based contracts wherever possible so that the contractor has measurable performance goals.

Health

1. Strengthen the National Health Service Corps to put more physicians in the neediest areas, and make its scholarship funds tax-free. 2. Double the research budget of the National Institutes of Health. 3. Signed Medicare Reform, which includes:

A 10-year privatization option.

Prescription drug benefits: Prior to this reform, Medicare paid for extended hospital stays for ulcer surgery, for example, at a cost of about $28,000 per patient. Yet Medicare would not pay for the drugs that eliminate the cause of most ulcers, drugs that cost about $500 a year. Now, drug coverage under Medicare will allow seniors to replace more expensive surgeries and hospitalizations with less expensive prescription medicine.

More health care choices: As President Bush stated, "…when seniors have the ability to make choices, health care plans within Medicare will have to compete for their business by offering higher quality service [at lower cost]. For the seniors of America, more choices and more control will mean better health care. These are the kinds of health care options we give to the members of Congress and federal employees. What's good for members of Congress is also good for seniors.

New Health Savings Accounts: Effective January 1, 2004, Americans can set aside up to $4,500 every year, tax free, to save for medical expenses. Depending on your tax bracket, that means you'll save between 10 to 35 percent on any costs covered by money in your account. Every year, the money not spent would stay in the account and gain interest tax-free, just like an IRA. These accounts will be good for small business owners, and employees. More businesses can focus on covering workers for major medical problems, such as hospitalization for an injury or illness. At the same time, employees and their families will use these accounts to cover doctors visits, or lab tests, or other smaller costs. Some employers will contribute to employee health accounts. This will help more American families get the health care they need at the price they can afford.

Homeland Security, Border Enforcement %26amp; Immigration

1. *See Government Reform above. Under President Bush's leadership, America has made an unprecedented commitment to homeland security. 2. Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first 10 ABM silos in Alaska so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes. Has ordered national and theater ballistic missile defenses to be deployed by 2004. 3. Announced a 9.7% increase in government-wide homeland security funding in his FY 2005 budget, nearly tripling the FY 2001 levels (excluding the Department of Defense and Project BioShield). 4. Before DHS was created, there were inspectors from three different agencies of the Federal Government and Border Patrol officers protecting our borders. Through DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) now consolidates all border activities into a single agency to create "one face at the border." This not only better secures the borders of the United States, but it also eliminates many of the inefficiencies that occurred under the old system. With over 18,000 CBP inspectors and 11,000 Border Patrol agents, CBP has 29,000 uniformed officers on our borders. 5. The Border Patrol is continuing installation of monitoring devices along the borders to detect illegal activity. 6. Launched Operation Tarmac to investigate businesses and workers in the secure areas of domestic airports and ensure immigration law compliance. Since 9/11, DHS has audited 3,640 businesses, examined 259,037 employee records, arrested 1,030 unauthorized workers, and participated in the criminal indictment of 774 individuals. 7. Since September 11, 2001, the Coast Guard has conducted more than 124,000 port security patrols, 13,000 air patrols, boarded more than 92,000 vessels, interdicted over 14,000 individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally, and created and maintained more than 90 Maritime Security Zones. 8. Announced the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), an internet-based system that is improving America's ability to track and monitor foreign students and exchange visitors. Over 870,000 students are registered in SEVIS. Of 285 completed field investigations, 71 aliens were arrested. 9. This week, the US-VISIT program began to digitally collect biometric identifiers to record the entry and exit of aliens who travel into the U.S on a visa. Together with the standard information, this new program will confirm compliance with visa and immigration policies. 10. Eliminated INS bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability. 11. Split the Immigration and Naturalization Service into two agencies: one to protect the border and interior, the other to deal with naturalization. 12. Signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal aliens. 13. Established a six-month deadline for processing immigration applications. 14. Information regarding nearly 100% of all containerized cargo is carefully screened by DHS before it arrives in the United States. Higher risk shipments are physically inspected for terrorist weapons and contraband prior to being released from the port of entry. Advanced technologies are being deployed to identify warning signs of chemical, biological, or radiological attacks. Since September 11, 2001, hundreds of thousands of first responders across America have been trained to recognize and respond to the effects of a WMD attack.

Judiciary %26amp; Tort Reform

1. Is urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits. 2. Killed the liberal ABA's unconstitutional role in vetting federal judges. The Senate is supposed to advise and consent, not the ABA. 3. Is nominating strong, conservative judges to the judiciary. 4. Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims.

Politics

1. His leadership resulted in Republican gains in the House and Senate, solidifying Republican control of both houses of Congress and the presidency. 2. Signed an EO enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision regarding union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes.

Second Amendment

1. Ordered Attorney General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, and is NOT a Leftist-imagined "collective" right. 2. Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit. 3. Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers. 4. *See Globalization %26amp; Internationalism.

Traditional Values, Compassion %26amp; Volunteerism

1. Endorses and promotes "The Responsibility Era." President Bush often speaks of the necessity of personal responsibility and civic volunteerism. He said, "In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else — to one in which every single American understands that he or she is responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself." 2. Started the USA Freedom Corps, the most comprehensive clearinghouse of volunteer opportunities ever offered. For the first time in history, Americans can enter geographic information about where they want to get involved, such as state or zip code, as well as areas of interest ranging from education to the environment, and they can access volunteer opportunities offered by more than 50,000 organizations across the country and around the world. 3. Established the The White House Office and the Centers for the Faith-Based and Community Initiative — located in seven Federal agencies. The faith-based initiative supports the essential work of these important organizations. The goal is to make sure that grassroots leaders can compete on an equal footing for federal dollars, receive greater private support, and face fewer bureaucratic barriers. Work focuses on at-risk youth, ex-offenders, the homeless and hungry, substance abusers, those with HIV/AIDS, and welfare-to-work families. 4. The White House released a guidebook fully describing the Administration's belief that faith-based groups have a Constitutionally-protected right to maintain their religious identity through hiring — even when Federal funds are involved. 5. Issued an EO implementing the Supreme Court's Olmstead ruling, which requires moving disabled people from institutions to community-based facilities when possible. 6. Increased funding for low-interest loan programs to help people with disabilities purchase devices to assist them. 7. Revised the Department of Housing and Urban Development's Section 8 rent subsidies to disabled people, permitting them to use up to a year's worth of vouchers to finance down payments on homes. HUD has started pilot programs in 11 states. 8. Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men, women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa. 9. Heeding the words of our own Declaration of Independence, the president laid out the non-negotiable demands of human dignity for all people everywhere. On January 29, 2002, he said, "No nation owns these aspirations, and no nation is exempt from them. We have no intention of imposing our culture. But America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable demands of human dignity." As stated by the President, they are a virtual manifesto of conservative principles:

Equal Justice

Freedom of Speech

Limited Government Power

Private Property Rights

Religious Tolerance

Respect for Women

Rule of Law

Why do libs avoid President Bush's Accomplishments?
Great post! Libs quake at the thought of people who do things the right way.
Reply:This "answer" is a paid political announcement. Report Abuse

Reply:How is killing the Kyoto and No child left behind accomplishments? Mission Accomplished my butt Report Abuse

Reply:This "answer" is a paid political announcment. And mostly garbage if you actually read it. Report Abuse

Reply:The poster is a paid official of the Bush Administration. It's his job to kiss butt. Report Abuse

Reply:Because Liberals are TOO Lazy Incompetent And Reckless to Speak The Truth about George W. Bush. Report Abuse

Reply:You dumbass, you got gaming for points for an answer! Try asking a *MORE* biased question next time so someone else can brown nose you. LAME. Report Abuse

Reply:Because he didn't have any.
Reply:Because it make them look bad.
Reply:What a bunch of bullsh*t
Reply:I think it's mostly because of the Iraq war and the fact that most of the things you list are bad for the country, not accomplishments.
Reply:Well, without reading the whole thing, it's just a fact that the Dems hate President Bush. They would hate any Rep president, no matter who it was.
Reply:well, a better question would be... why does everyone seem to avoid them...

and the answer would be... they are GREATLY over exagerated...as you prove...

as MOST of the things you mention are things he "wants to do" or "supports"... yeah, real impressive to support something that you have no control over...

not to mention the blatant lies... sucessfully executed two wars? in who's mind?
Reply:An "accomplishment" to one person can be a failure to someone else. Particularly suspect are Bush's "accomplishments" lost in a fog of ultra-patriotism (e.g., the great accomplishment of removing Saddham Hussein from Iraq but leaving Iraq a completely unsecured quagmire unable to govern itself while U.S. troops continue to die on a daily basis).

You see neocon, an accomplishment is a relative term, but there is truth out there. A long list of relative accomplishments is pitiful, but it takes that kind of polish to make a bad president look good. Unlike Bush and his fellow liars who support the U.S. becoming a police state with military enforcement of no dissent, there are honest Americans who know just how badly Bush's illegal rise to power has hurt America.
Reply:Banned Partial Birth Abortion - Ooh big accomplishment! Most docs wouldn't do them anyway.

Signed two income tax cuts, - That's a good thing? The war is driving us bankrupt. We need the tax dollars.

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the presidency. - But got us into a war based on his interpretation of intelligence that wasn't there %26amp; blames everyone else for the failures. He has tried to set up a War-Czar, but every general he approaches runs screaming. Really diginified actions!

Has reintroduced the mention of God and faith into public discourse. - But there is that little matter of the seperation of church and state.

Handled himself with enormous courage, dignity, grace, determination, and leadership in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 hijackings and anthrax attacks. - Okay how would you think any other Prez would have reacted. He did his job. GREAT!

Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation. - Umm.. Education is a local matter. He created the legislation then didn't fund the programs. Outstanding leadership!

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty. - So what! It wouldn't have worked anyway. Economics wouldn't allow it.

Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom. - However, it cost the majority in both houses of congress. And the Iraqis can't walk the streets safely. Hell even Sadam guaranteed that!

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant). -Do you unified the world agaist us?

Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. - Umm.. I work w/ govt contractors. They are lazy and always fighting. Not to mention the fact contracts NEVER come in at or under budget.

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I'd continue, but I need to go work on my gf's condo.
Reply:1. Bush didn't ban partial birth abortion the supreme court did. They were leaning towards that before the two new appointees so how does Bush get credit for that?

2. I must of missed all the honor and dignity being restored, I was too busy thinking about the lying, cheating and general bad information that his administration puts out. I've been evaluating the loss of respect from other nations also.

3. The only president to authorize tax cuts at a time of war. Our deficit has what, tripled?

4. He must promote plagiarism also if you copied the entire article from another site.

5. I don't support the jobs up for bid because we all know how that works.

6. No Child Left Behind has been reported as a failure in even Texas.

7. What freedom of speech? Everyone that contradicts or questions him is a traitor, doesn't love America or sides with the terrorist.

8. Limited Gov't Power?? Have you read the Patriot Act or listened when they talked about wire tapping?

9. There is just too much there for me to attack.

I will be happy to recognize something Bush does right as soon as I find something.
Reply:I am George Bush and here are my real accomplishments as President:

I attacked and invaded two countries so far, losing more US soldiers after I claimed "Mission Accomplished" than the total number who were killed during full combat operations in both wars combined.

o I spent the largest surplus in the history of the country and nearly bankrupted the treasury.

o I shattered records for the biggest annual deficit in history.

o Set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in a 12 month cycle of any presidency, beating the previous record which was set during the depression years.

o Set all-time record for biggest loss of value in the history of the stock market during any presidency ($5 Trillion drop equalling a 27% drop in investor stock portfolios from the date of my inauguration).

o First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

o First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

o First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history and continued that practice throughout my term in office.

o On August 6th, with plenty of time available to prevent or thwart the predicted attack, I received a Presidential Daily Briefing entitled, "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike Inside The US" and later claimed that "I never saw any intelligence that indicated there was going to be an attack on America", and due to my charm and excellent public speaking skills, I made the press and the people believe me instead of the facts.

o After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history, the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center, and sat calmly expressing strength, bravery and reserve for at least 7 minutes during the attack, standing sure and certain, strong as a rock, while almost 3,000 American people died.

o Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips on Air Force 1 than any other president in US history.

o I approved and allowed my Saudi friends to traverse the country, hopping from airport to airport, and fly to Saudi Arabia. This was while the rest of the country was in fear of its life after several Saudis perpetrated the worst crime in the history of the United States. (9/11)

o In my first three years in office over 3.3 million Americans lost their jobs, so I asked for another $550,000,000,000 (that's $550 Billion) in tax cuts because they're obviously working.

o Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.

o Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.

o Set the record for the fewest amount of solo press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

o Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when ENRON corruption was revealed and many states faced bankruptcy.

o Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national strategic oil reserves to alleviate the crisis. Instead I filled up the reserves while the prices were high. (I treat my friends well)

o Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans while posing on aircraft carriers in a flgiht suit and despite praising the troops at every opportunity.

o Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. (http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches)

o Dissolved or abandoned more international treaties than any president in US history.

o My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history, surpassing the secrecy of the Nixon administration at its darkest moments.

o Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice had a Chevron oil tanker named after her)

o First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously reach the point of insolvency.

o Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud (ENRON, WorldCom, Global Crossing) of any market in any country in the history of the world.

o First president in US history to order an illegal, unilateral and unprovoked attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.

o First president in US history to start a war against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

o Created the largest new government bureaucracy (Department of Homeland Security) in the history of the United States.

o Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.

o First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.

o First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.

o Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

o I ignored the United Nations demands and requirements pursuant to international law and warfare.

o I have systematically eroded the civil liberties of American citizens more than at any other time in US history.

o I have promoted and passed landmark laws making sweeping new surveillance activities, spying, arrest, imprisonment, interrogation, and obtained the power to order the death of any person, without cause or due process.

o I disregard states rights when it suits me, but I ran for office on a platform that holds states rights above federal rights. In fact, I got into office by having the US Supreme Court operate out of its own jurisdiction and trample all over the sovereignty of the State of Florida.

o I've imprisoned more sick people for growing and smoking medicinal Cannabis than any other president, in violation of states rights, of course, and against the wishes of the states and local voters.

o My attorney General, John Ashcroft is encouraged to, and always prevents, anyone charged with a medicinal Cannabis crime in a Federal court from using the defense that the majority of voters approved the activities in the case before the court and that the alleged 'crime' was in fact perfectly legal activity and a well regarded resource for sick people in the state where it occurred.

o Withdrew from the World Court (Permanent Court of International Justice) and I refuse to recognize it unless it gives my administration, the US and global corporations special immunity so that the US can continue to torture and kill anyone in the world with complete impunity.

o Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and refused to abide by the Geneva Conventions regarding prisoners of war by cleverly classifying them as "enemy combatants", thereby allowing us to circumvent the Geneva Conventions.

o I was the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).

o I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

o My personal friend and biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation). Kenny Lay was charged with several crimes, indicted by a grand jury, and will stand trial but he'll get off; he's just like me, innocent of all charges.

o Spent more money on polls and focus groups in the first two years of my presidenct than any president in US history, despite claiming throughout my candidacy that I would not use polling data.

o First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

o First US president to establish a secret shadow government, and I did this without the knowledge or participation of the oppostion parties in congress.

o Squandered world sympathy for the US after 9/11, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

o With a policy of 'disengagement' and open public support for alleged war criminal, Ariel Sharon, allowed and condoned the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

o First US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view the US as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

o First US president in history to have the people of South Korea feel more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

o Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

o Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

o Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Usama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.

o Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building - my Attorney General is more interested in Louisiana prostitutes, paraplegic pot smokers, dancing kids and glass pipe salesmen than in capturing terrorists.

o Captured Saddam Hussein only after spending billions of dollars, using the entire armed forces and at the cost of over 400 American lives and 2000 wounded soldiers, most of them missing limbs, deaf or blinded.

o In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented, stalled, diverted or spiked any real public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States. Additionally, I failed to capture any of the masterminds or people responsible for the attacks.

o In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.

o Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category into a sharply downward trend.

o Did nothing about the failing US power grid during the first two years of my presidency, despite repeated warnings, and later presided over the largest total power blackout in US history that incapacitated several states and part of Canada.

o In order to prevent financing abortions in China, I cut off all $34 million of aid to the U.N. Population Fund, which was also used to provide medical care to pregnant teenagers with defective pregnancies who will now die or walk around trailing urine and feces for the rest of their lives unless voluntary charitable help is found.

o I proposed removing overtime pay for millions of Americans despite the pay cut being overwhelmingly opposed by the public and Congress, and I will continue my union busting agenda as long as I'm the Commander in Chief.

o A detailed record of my envronmental accomplishments is available at this link: http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/

o A detailed record of mine and my cabinet's history of service in the armed forces during times of war is available at this link: http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

o I passed a Medicare bill that will gut Medicare, sends billions of dollars to my campaign contributors, big pharma, and will increase the cost of medical care and prescriptions to the elderly.
Reply:YOU CONSIDER THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS?!?! MORE LIKE RESTRICTING PERSONAL FREEDOMS!
Reply:Ummm... Bush has been an abject failure.

He expanded the government

He eroded civil rights

He ran up the LARGEST debt in history

And he invaded a nation over a lie, thereby getting thousands of American soldiers killed.

Hell of a guy.

And I'm a Goldwater Conservative. Not one of those Neo-Con loons, mind, but a real living, breathing Conservative.

Bush is a joke, and the Neo-Cons have to go if the Republican party is ever going to regain its credibility.
Reply:If you believe all of this, I have a bridge I want to sell you.
Reply:Only about 30% of the nation approve of the job he is doing, so it is not only Liberals that dislike him. Conservatives by the bunches are seriously dissapointed.

At the recent Republican candidates debate from Simi Valley former President Reagan's name was mentioned about 25 times. The candidates mentioned George W. Bush 1 time. They also mentioned Saddam and Osama Bin Laden 1 time each...

And when will people quit with the Libs this, Cons that... we are all Americans and are way more alike than we are different. Don't let the politicians and pundits split us!
Reply:Narrow mindedness. If you don't agree with them on everything they won't give you credit for being right about anything. Both sides need to work on this.
Reply:Because the liberals can't stand the fact that he IS president.

It all goes back to the election of 2000. The liberal's lackey, Al Gore, was supposed to win the election. When he blew what should have been a walk in the park, campaign, the liberals all but swore a sollem vow not to cooperate with anything regarding the "evil" Republican agenda. The toadie press has, of course, gone along with this the whole time. I have found it tragically amusing that the very same people who control that which is laughingly referred to as "Public Education", are the very same ones who are so very willing to promote the myth that the President is elected by the popular vote. Another liberal lie. 9/11 shut them up for a little while, until they had the courage to come out of hiding, and once again, slowly, inexorably, the hate campaign began again. Notice how the propaganda has morphed over time.

Once, there was no proof of Saddam's WMDs, despite the fact that the entire U.N. security counsel had intelligences to the contrarey. Then, after a very percursory inspection, Hans Blikz determines that there are NO LONGER any WMDs to be found. All the while, Saddam has been moving what was left of his arsenal, with the help of Russian operatives, to

Syria, under the guise of "flood relief". The "fair and unbiased press" of ours refuses to make any of this known. The lie now becomes "he doesn't have any WMDs" and so the war in Iraq is based on a lie. Do I need to say anything about the first gulf war? The lie is also perpetuated that Saddam never did anything to warrant his overthrow. Let us remember that after invading a U.S. ally, (Kuwait) if you've forgotten, Oh that's right, they were prosperous so they don't count, He also attacked both Saudi Arabia, and Isreal with scud and scud II missiles that were bought from-- North Korea. Still, the lie persists and grows that there is no justification for the action being taken. We ARE being lied to. But it is the liberal-left, and the obedient shills of the press that are doing the lying.

Need I remind you that it is the left that frames the debate along paralells of Vietnam? Remember that Vietnam was not lost over there, it was lost over here.
Reply:because his failures outway his accomplishments by a long shot. he is a closed minded president who isnt open to any new ideas
Reply:People want everything to be black or white--including Bush. There can be no shades of gray for them. It would shake their belief system to have to admit that Bush did anything good.
Reply:28% is the eqivalent to all of what you wrote.
Reply:Great points, my friend.
Reply:If they did they would have to agree that President Bush was the greatest President this nation has ever had.

Obama supporters . . . you can't deny it now . . . it's been substantiated by the Associate Press?

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As evidence the Obama campaign had pushed the story, Clinton advisers pointed to a memo written by an Obama staffer compiling examples of comments by Clinton and her surrogates that could be construed as racially insensitive. The memo later surfaced on some political Web sites.

The memo was written by the South Carolina press secretary . . . How can you deny it . . . Obama has been caught playing the race card . . . My question is how do you deny it or justify it now?

Obama supporters . . . you can't deny it now . . . it's been substantiated by the Associate Press?
I TOLD YOU GUYS, WHERE THERE IS SMOKE,THERE IS FIRE! YOU GET A GOLD STAR!
Reply:Don't blame Obama. Blame Clinton for digging her own grave.

That line about LBJ? LOL.

What about all of the dirty deeds done by the Clinton camp? Do they get a free pass?
Reply:You said it yourself, an Obama staffer has done that. Not Obama. No comment on race has ever come out of Obama's mouth.
Reply:Associated Press? You mean the Associated with the Clinton's Press, don't you?
Reply:Neither is getting my vote. So I don't care how much mud they sling at each other.
Reply:It would help if you supply the link to this story.
Reply:If Hillary can play the woman card, I think Obama can play his. It's a game by both campaigns, don't take this crap personal.
Reply:This is fun watching the Dems beat each other up. I need some more popcorn.
Reply:WHO CARES .BOTH SIDE ARE NOT WITHOUT DIRTY PLAY.

ITS POLITICS AS USUAL. So please get off the soap box. Both sides are dirty in one way or another.
Reply:Hillary plays every card in the deck and then denies any knowledge of it.And lets not forget that scripted tear up last week.
Reply:my question is ,why should i care?
Reply:Hillary has been playing the gender card for a long time, so turn around sounds like fair play to me.

BTW - I'm not in the Obama camp, but the Hillary campaign is offensive to me in the HUGE amount of hypocrisy that constantly spews from there.
Reply:How can someone who's BOTH black and white play the race card....You sound stupid.
Reply:Like I've said before, you play the cards your dealt.

Do you think for one minute that Hillary's staff isn't looking for statements that can be used to play the feminine card. This is a Presidential Campaign!!! Quit crying and play ball or go home!!!!!
Reply:Buddy's right. the Clintons are the bad guys in this.
Reply:Link?....Proof?
Reply:I don't care. Why don't you worry about the candidate you support. Try promoting the guy/gal you want to win and get over the bashing. What grade are you in?
Reply:Democrats can find an excuse for anything.
Reply:Hillary is a bigot. Remember her remark about Gandhi and the gas station.

How come John Edwards wife ...?

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How come John Edwards wife only has cancer when John Edwards is trying to get publicity?

He did this in 2004 and now that he is way behind Clinton and Obama ... here comes the wife cancer card again.

How come John Edwards wife ...?
I'm not sure, but that John Edwards is not good enough to be our president. He sued the Red Cross 3 times! He also sued a lot of doctors that were not doing anything wrong and put them out of business. He is an ambulance chaser!
Reply:I'm sure his wife has breast cancer and that is very sad, but I think he's using it as a publicity stunt for his own political motives...

I think he's a creep!
Reply:i'm not an edwards fan, but i highly doubt this is a publicity stunt. sometimes disease and cancer seem to recharge and come back when people are under stress.

i don't think its the best decision that he's continuing, but it's THEIR decision to make. i don't think it would be the right one for me personally.
Reply:I just knew that all of these comments would start!!! How can anyone even think this is a publicity stunt. He is on the campaign trail; he needs to explain why his wife is all of a sudden not by his side.

How would we react to see her in the next month bald!!!! Would people think she shaved her head as a way to get votes!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:If you remember her last episode was announced the day AFTER Kerry and Edwards LOST the election..You do not plan cancer for your convenience.
Reply:the cancer card...interesting ...i guess if you have the idea that any publicity is better than no publicity and pity publicity is even better than that.and then "thinking of the country before you think of yourself or family" publicity..well...you get the message...i wish her well...but as far as im concerned, there are enough democratic politicians who can ruin this country without him needing to play a role...he should tend to his family....this just kinda goes to show what the lure of power can do to someone...
Reply:OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot believe you would make such an outright and blatant assumption for god's sake!! Have you no compassion for your fellow man? Oh yeah, you're probably a conservative/republican and they have no compassion or empathy for their fellow man!

Many times some things are better left unsaid, and your question definitely falls into that category!!!
Reply:DO SHE HAVE CANCER TOO.
Reply:Oh boy, I'm a die hard conservative, but this suggestion is too harsh. Cancer is an unpredictable devil that I wouldn't wish on anyone. She has two small children. We should keep her in our prayers.
Reply:All I want to know is when is New Orleans going to be chocolate again????? Or was that just more empty promises

Please help???????

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how much might a Clinton Portis redskins football card with a piece of his broncos jersey in it be worth???

Please help???????
about 5-10 bucks depending on how dumb the person buying it is
Reply:look it up in a collectors magazine. Value of different things depends on how great the player is and on the amount of cards made. If that card was a mistake and the only one made it might be worth a lot. If there are a million of those cards made than it probably won't be worth a lot at all.
Reply:If the card is a Redskins Card and it shows a picture of Portis wearing a Broncos jersey, it's more than likely a misprint card.

It could be worth some big bucks someday. I'd hang on to it for awhile. Take it to a professional card appraiser to find out what its worth.
Reply:Not much, he really hasn't done anything significant. When he does that than it will skyrocket. But right now, at tops, $2.

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Why are cons whining about the CNN Bible question?

2010-05-24T00:35:00.002-07:00

Isn't religion an important thing for the right?

It was a general question, not a specific question made repeatedly to make a candidate look bad.

For example, CNN asking Hillary over and over if she was using the gender card. I mean, aren't there more important things to talk about than that?

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BROWN: Senator Clinton, you went to your alma mater recently, Wellesley College, and you said there that your tenure had prepared you to compete in the all-boys-club of presidential politics.

At the same time, your campaign has accused this all-boys-club, surrounding you on stage, of piling on with their attacks against you. And then your husband recently came to your defense by saying that these, quote, "boys," had been getting rough with you.

And some have suggested that you, that your campaign, that your husband are exploiting gender as a political issue during this campaign.

What's really going on here?

CLINTON RESPONSE...

Why are cons whining about the CNN Bible question?
Why I am not a fan of Hilliary, I do agree with you that the country has more important issues to resolve. I however, have not heard any candidate in either party address

1. A fast track program to make this country energy independent.

2. A program to resolve issues of water --this country is in major need of more reservoirs, lakes, and etc. Major cities need to stop stealing water from other communities.

3. Their position on solutions in solving the credit crisis.(also home loans).
Reply:The "republican bashfest" that I saw came directly from the candidates themselves. They were bashing eachother the entire time.

With the exeption of the gay retired soldier.. That debate seemed fine to me.. I'd think the questions they asked (like the ones you mention) would be exactly what Republican voters would want asked. Force them to take a stance..
Reply:the entire fiasco was so obvious a liberal scam set up its ridiculous.
Reply:Maybe they're mad because EVERY SINGLE person that asked a question at the GOP CNN/YouTube debates was not an "undecided voter" or "Republican" -- it was a hardcore left-wing activist.
Reply:There was absolutely no question being asked here, you and I know that. It was a liberal hired shill mocking anyone with beliefs in a higher power. Between that and the gay general, the confederate flag displaying idiot, the "debate" was one big Republican bashfest.

And for the record, I believe everything in the Bible, be it symbolic or in parables. Most of its accounts can be substantiated with non religious books.
Reply:are you for real or what...Hillary was asked about playing the gender card...said no and then played it...right then

Sheriff sees pattern in border agents' cases do you see it ?

2010-05-24T00:35:00.001-07:00

A Texas sheriff says a 2001 case against another U.S. Border Patrol agent set the pattern that was used by U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton in his recent cases against Agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos, who now are serving prison terms for shooting at a drug smuggler fleeing back into Mexico, as well as Deputy Sheriff Gilmer Hernandez.

Rocksprings, Texas, Sheriff Don Letsinger told WND in a telephone interview that the prosecution of David Sipe was "the smoking gun" showing how the U.S. Attorney's office handles evidence "to get prosecutions like U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton has gotten in the case of Ramos and Compean."

Sipe was convicted in 2001 for a situation near McAllen, Texas, when he was accused of using a metal flashlight to strike illegal alien coyote Jose Guevara on the back of his head after Guevara struggled and resisted arrest.

The charge was using "excessive force and causing bodily injury" in the confrontation during the early morning hours of April 5, 2000.

The case would ruin Sipe's career and marriage before it was over just a few weeks ago. A federal appeals court reversed his conviction and ordered a new trial because of prosecutorial misconduct, including withholding exculpatory information from the defense in violation of the Brady rule, and during a re-trial in January, Sipe was acquitted after deliberations of less than an hour.

Sipe's attorney, Jack Wolfe, told WND there were similarities between Sipe's case and the allegations against the "Texas 3," former U.S. Border Agents Ramos and Compean and Deputy Sheriff Hernandez, who has been convicted in a prosecution also launched by Sutton of shooting at a van loaded with illegal aliens he thought were trying to run him down.

"The federal prosecutors in the Sipe case refused to prosecute Guevara when he was apprehended a second time, caught for transporting illegal aliens by automobile," Wolfe told WND, just as documents suggest that prosecutors failed to prosecute a second offense by Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, the smuggler shot at by Ramos and Compean.

Wolve also said the Sipe prosecution was driven by the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington. "DOJ under Clinton sent Fred Menner down to Texas from the Civil Rights Division to make sure this case was prosecuted," he said. Similar concerns have been expressed about the Ramos-Compean case.

"At first, the reports from the Border Patrol were that nobody was going to do anything about Sipe's case. The DOJ in Washington was hot," Wolfe said. "They built the fire under the U.S. Attorney's office to get the case going. DOJ Civil Rights got the bit in their mouth and they decided to prosecute Sipe."

"The Mexican Consulate footprints were all through the Sipe case," Wolfe added. "The Mexican Consulate wrote letters, they went out and assisted in taking photographs that they turned over to the prosecution. The Mexican Consulate offered to go to Mexico and bring back witnesses. A member of the Mexican Consulate sat through the whole trial."

Such requests also were evident in the case against Hernandez, who essentially had been cleared before the demand arrived from Mexico that he be prosecuted.

There also have been allegations in the Ramos-Compean case of improper links between those involved in illegal activity, and those connected to the Border Patrol. Likewise in the Sipe case, Wolfe said.

"The Texas Department of Public Service pulled over a vehicle transporting illegal immigrants and they found Guevara," Wolfe explained. "DPS called the Border Patrol to respond. The two agents that responded recognized Guevara from the Sipe case. So, they went up the chain of command and the boss of that shift in the McAllen sector made the decision not to send the case over to the U.S. Attorney's office"

Wolfe said the Border Patrol boss of that shift and Guevara both ended up being linked to a nefarious character known as the "Goat Man." He was a known alien and dope smuggler who lives in Bonitas, Wolfe said.

"The victim worked for the Goat Man. Six months later, when Guevara gets caught again, the Border Patrol official who makes the decision not to prosecute is the nephew of the Goat Man," he said.

"The prosecution knew Guevara got caught again," Wolfe said, "and the Border Patrol recommendation was not to prosecute him. The prosecution gave Guevara a pass on the second violation because they didn’t want to weaken the case against Sipe."

"The prosecution gave Guevara and the other two illegal immigrant witnesses Social Security cards, border passes, and witness fees," Wolfe also told WND. "The prosecutors became virtually a travel agency for Guevara and the other government witnesses in the case, giving them free air travel to and from Mexico so they could visit family and friends, as well as free phone use to contact their families, whenever they wanted to do so."

Letsinger also told WND that he believes information was withheld from the grand jury and trial jury to get a conviction against Hernandez.

"I'm reasonably sure that the grand jury was not told there was no physical evidence recovered at the scene to support statements of the government's witnesses and the government's charges," the sheriff said. However, WND was unable to obtain a comment from the U.S. Attorney's office.

On February 22, WND reported that Letsinger believed Hernandez did nothing wrong and that the Texas Rangers were not going to recommend prosecution as a result of their investigation.

The statements by the prosecution that Gilmer Hernandez had chased the illegals across a pasture, cursing them and shooting at them were completely false," Letsinger told WND. "The Texas Ranger and a federal ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) agent and an ATF dog were taken to that location. That dog searched that location thoroughly and could find no shell casings. When the dog failed to find the shell casings, the officers used a metal detector to search the field thoroughly and failed to find any shell casings."

"At trial, the prosecutor insinuated to the jury information that he knew was not true," Letsinger told WND. "He implied to the jury that evidence was tampered with, when there is no evidence of tampering. The physical evidence collected is consistent with Gil Hernandez's version of events."

"These immigrants, by their own statements to Texas Rangers, had entered into a criminal conspiracy with an organized crime smuggling organization to enter the United States in violation of the U.S. immigration laws," Letisinger continued. "The difference is that when you enter into a conspiracy, even though you do not know all the conspirators, you are responsible for the [actions] of all the conspirators. So, when the driver attempted to run over Deputy Hernandez, all the parties in the car were now culpable for felony assault charges.

"The U.S. attorneys knew everything that was in the Texas Rangers report," Letsinger said. "In that report were the statements of the illegal immigrants that they had entered into a criminal conspiracy. So, prior to trial, Sutton had decided to give all the occupants of the van and all the members of the conspiracy immunity from those felony assault charges."

Letsinger told WND that he strongly suspects Sutton would have had no case if the jury had known that the story about Hernandez running through a field, firing his weapon and trying to kill the runaway immigrants was unsubstantiated by evidence. Letsinger also told WND that had the story been true, the Texas Rangers would have recommended prosecution and he would have concurred.

WND has reported that the federal prosecution of Hernandez began only after the Mexican Consulate in Eagle Pass, Texas, wrote a series of letters demanding that the Bush administration prosecute Hernandez for injuring a Mexican national, Marciela Rodriguez Garcia.

The federal government has recommended a seven-year term for Hernandez at his sentencing later this month.

How long have we been begging and petitioning Bush for a pardon?

Sheriff sees pattern in border agents' cases do you see it ?
This is all part of a bigger agenda.

The Feds are sending a signal to law enforcement to not do anything about this problem.

The Feds want the votes and Big Business (which owns the Feds) is drunk on cheap labor and the idea of creating new pools of consumers for their products.

It's also part of a plan to dissolve the nation-state. Instead of nations, you have an economic zone where people constantly have to migrate to find work for their expertise. See the book, "The Pentagon's New Map."

The final result?

You will be a refugee in your own homeland as Mexico will eventually own the US by sheer numbers of people.
Reply:This President might as well be a Mexican Citizen , he sure as he!! is not working for the American people .
Reply:There is definitely a pattern. One cannot suppose that Bush would ignore hundreds of thousands of letters and protesters (even senators) calling for a presidential pardon, merely because he is too busy or because he really thinks those poor border guards deserve it. No way! 10 years in prison for protecting America from a dirty drug smuggler? I think Bush is the criminal in this case.
Reply:Mexico and Sutton both should be held accountable. This has been about Mexico right from the start.
Reply:Johnny Sutton has got to go down!! Have you seen this one yet?

http://www.grassfire.org/NewsReleases/20...

Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos have now been jailed for 49 days.

Great article!! Thanks for the info!! :)

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What is the relationship between 911 and Saddam?

2010-05-24T00:35:00.000-07:00

By The Numbers

On September 11th, 2001 4 Flights were hijacked.

American Airlines Flight 11 which left Boston's Logan Airport bound

for Los Angeles before being piloted into the North Tower of the

World Trade Center.American Airlines Flight 77 which left

Washington's Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles

before being flown into the Pentagon.

United Airlines Flight 93 which left Newark, N.J., bound for San

Francisco before crashing in Stony Creek Township, Pa United

Airlines Flight 175 which left Boston's Logan Airport bound for Los

Angeles before being piloted into the South Tower of the World Trade

Center. Why did the mastermind behind the attacks on America of

September 11th, 2001 choose these particular flight numbers? MY

THEORY ABOUT THE CHOICE OF FLIGHT 93 WAS THAT 1993 WAS THE YEAR

IN WHICH SADDAM FIRST TRIED TO ASSASSINATE FORMER PRESIDENT BUSH IN

KUWAIT, IT WAS ALSO THE YEAR IN WHICH SADDAM HUSSEIN FIRST TRIED

TO DESTROY THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. IT TURNED OUT TO BE AN UNLUCKY

NUMBER FOR SADDAM HUSSEIN BECAUSE THE PASSENGERS ON FLIGHT 93 BECAME

HEROES AND STOPPED THE PLANE FROM GOING INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.

"White House Was Flight 93 Target

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/2...

May 23, 2002

Volunteers in Shanksville this past weekend. (Photo: AP)

The San Francisco-bound jet had turned toward Washington and U.S.

fighter jets were flying to intercept it when it crashed. All 44

people aboard were killed.

(CBS) A high-ranking al Qaeda detainee told investigators the

intended target of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a

Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11, was the White House.

Government sources said Abu Zubaydah, now in U.S. custody, is

believed to be the source of the information. He is being

interrogated by U.S. officials at an undisclosed location.

Investigators have linked Zubaydah directly to hijackers on board

Flight 93.

United Flight 93 took off from Newark, N.J., and crashed in Somerset

County, Pa.. A recorder on the plane and calls made to people on the

ground indicate passengers fought for control with the hijackers

before it went down.

The San Francisco-bound jet had turned toward Washington and U.S.

fighter jets were flying to intercept it when it crashed. All 44

people aboard were killed.

Officials previously had assumed the White House was a likely

target, but said the Capitol and CIA headquarters in McLean, Va.,

near Washington were other possibilities.Abu Zubaydah is believed to

have played a key role in organizing the Sept. 11 attacks, officials

said. As al Qaeda's top operational planner, he ran the Khalden camp

in Afghanistan, where U.S. investigators have learned many of the

Sept. 11 hijackers trained. This suggests Abu Zubaydah may have had

direct contact with the hijackers and chosen them for training.

He also had telephone contacts with at least one Arab student at

U.S. flight schools, according to a July 10, 2001, memo from a

Phoenix FBI agent.

The CIA, FBI and Pakistani authorities captured and wounded Abu

Zubaydah in a raid by in Faisalabad, Pakistan, in March. He is

believed to have masterminded the failed millennium bombing plots in

Los Angeles and Jordan, and has been linked to failed plots on the

U.S. embassies in Paris and Sarajevo.

Abu Zubaydah was also indirectly linked, through a web of

associations with other al Qaeda members in Europe, to lead Sept. 11

hijacker Mohammed Atta and his cell in Hamburg, Germany. Three

members of the Hamburg cell were suicide hijackers; three others are

still at large. Ziad Jarrah, believed to be the pilot-hijacker of

Flight 93, was a member of the Hamburg cell."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/2...

The first attack on the World Trade Center on February 26th, 1993.

The February 26th, 1993 attack marked the 11th anniversary to the

day of the declaration by the Reagan-Bush Administration of February

26th, 1982 that Iraq was no longer a state sponsor of terrorism and

as such was eligible for American loans and grants, which it

subsequently got.

The February 26th, 1993 attack also marked the 2nd anniversary to the

day of the liberation of Kuwait by the U.S. in the first Gulf War.

Remarks at the Commemoration of the Tenth Anniversary of the

Liberation of Kuwait Secretary Colin L. Powell Kuwait City, Kuwait

(US Embassy) February 26, 2001

The World Trade Center was attacked by terrorists associated with

Sheik Rahman on February 26th, 1993. It was Sheik Rahman's group

that murdered Egyptian President Anwar Sadat on the 8th anniversary

to the day of the 1973 Yom Kippur War, October 6th.

Sheik Rahman's son was subsequently found with bin Laden's group

in Afghanistan when the U.S. liberated Afghanistan.

"White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer: we have real and

credible information that the airplane that landed at the Pentagon

was

originally intended to hit the White House."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/...

8.html#intended-targets

American Airlines Flight 77 which left Washington's Dulles

International Airport bound for Los Angeles before being flown into

the Pentagon.

7/7 is one way to write the date July 7th

On July 7th, 1994 Yasser Arafat, PLO chairman drove from Egypt into

Gaza, after 27 years in exile. What Arafat was doing was using the

date of July 7th to re-write a perceived wrong he had felt some

years earlier on another July 7th. It was on July 7th 1986 that the

government of Jordan closed the offices of Yasser Arafat's al-Fatah.

Because a bus bombing occurred in London on July 7th, 2005 it struck

me that the nation that has endured more bus bombings than any other

nation is Israel. There may be a connection between the July 7th,

2005 attacks in London and the terrorists who have targeted Israel

with bus bombings for years.

Recently terrorists in Iraq murdered Egypt's envoy to Iraq.

"Zarqawi group reportedly killed Egyptian ambassador in Iraq

Iraq-Egypt, Politics, 7/7/2005

News reports from al-Jazeera and al-Arabia satellite TV stations

said that Egypt's top diplomat in Iraq to Iraq, Eyhab al-Sharif, had

been executed.

Meantime, Al-Qaida organization in Iraq, led by Abu Musab al-

Zarqawi, had threatened in a statement on the Internet to execute

the chairman of the Egyptian diplomatic mission al-Sharif.

The threat to execute Sharif came a short time after al-Qaida

organization in Iraq issued pictures for the identity cards of the

Egyptian diplomat as an evidence that they are the ones which

kidnapped him.

The statement said the legitimate court of al-Qaida organization in

Mesopotamia decided to "send the ambassador of the state of Egypt to

the Mujahideen (indivduals from Egypt and other states that go to

Iraq to fight with the insurgents) to execute the death penalty

against him." The statement considered that "the embassies in

Baghdad are but monitoring sites to snipe the arriving Mujahideen

and preventing them from having access to their brothers in Jihad in

the land of Mesopotamia (Iraq) and in Afghanistan."

In an attempt to prove that the Egyptian ambassador is their

possession, al-Qaida organization published documents including a

driving Sharif's license and a work card for him at the foreign

ministry and another one for health insurance. On Tuesday the

organization claimed responsibility for kidnapping Sharif."

American Airlines Flight 11 which left Boston's Logan Airport bound

for Los Angeles before being piloted into the North Tower of the

World Trade Center.

Saddam Hussein assassinated his first victim when he was 11 years

old. Fixated on the number 11 ever since then he easily focused on

the World Trade Center as a target because it looked so much like a

number 11 that WPIX TV Channel 11 in New York City used the World

Trade Center in its logo for years.

The World Trade Center also housed an office of the Bank of Kuwait.

Saddam used Rahman's group to punish Sadat for failing to defeat

Israel in the attack on Israel of October 6th, 1973. Saddam also

used Sheik Rahman's group to hit the Speaker of the Egyptian

Parliament during the first Gulf War when Egypt sided with America

against Iraq.

Saddam, acting like a child who is deprived of a toy, who

subsequently

breaks that toy, set fire to the Kuwaiti oil fields as he was being

driven out of Kuwait during the first Gulf War in 1991.

"Aired 9/11/2001 "Baghdad Republic of Iraq TV: These are

the fruits of the new US order.[Video of explosion rocking World

Trade

Center] Panic has spread among US official circles, which evacuated

the White House following a series of explosions."

"CNN LARRY KING LIVE Aired October 2, 2001 LARRY KING: Have you

spoken to your father- in-law? (George Herbert Walker Bush)

LAURA BUSH: I've spoken to my father-in-law. They were-they had

actually spent that Monday night here.(at the White House) I had

just seen them off that morning (9/11/2001) when I got in the car

and found out about the first plane.(going into the World Trade

Center.)"

"CNN LARRY KING LIVE America's New War: Laura Bush Discusses the

Impact of September 11 Aired October 2, 2001 - 21:00 LARRY KING: A

couple of other things:

Have you spoken to your father- in-law? (Not in transcript, but the

father in law in question is one George Herbert Walker Bush !!!)

LAURA

BUSH: I've spoken to my father-in-law. They were-they had actually

spent that Monday night here. (not in transcript but "here" means at

the White House !!!) LARRY KING: Really? LAURA BUSH: I had just seen

them off that morning when I got in the-got in the car and found out

about the first plane. LARRY KING: Didn't know that. LAURA BUSH: They

were-they were on their way to St. Paul, Minnesota to give a speech,

and they were in a private plane, and their plane was diverted to

Minneapolis." http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0110/02/l...

"September 11th, 2001 - The White House is

evacuated. White House Sealed"

http://www.september11news.com/AAWhiteHo...

"try to avoid having the principal

travel by commercial airline on terrorist anniversaries" from "The

Art

of Executive Protection"

http://www.securitymanagement.com/librar... "

Saddam tried to kill former President Bush in 1993.

Former President Bush's Speech to Congress September 11th 1990. 11

years to the day before September 11th 2001 "In the early morning

hours of August 2d,(1990),a powerful Iraqi army invaded Kuwait. The

crisis in the Persian Gulf also offers a rare opportunity to move

toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled

times, our fifth objective-a new world order-can emerge."

White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer: we have real and credible

information that the airplane that landed at the Pentagon was

originally intended to hit the White House."

"White House Was Flight 93 Target

A high-ranking al Qaeda detainee told investigators the intended

target of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a

Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11, was the White House. Government

sources said Abu Zubaydah, now in U.S. custody, believed to be the

source of the information."

Perhaps the following may explain how Saddam knew where former

President Bush might be spending the night of September 10th-11th

2001:

"Like everyone else in the United States, the group stood transfixed

as the events of September 11 unfolded. Present were former secretary

of defense Frank Carlucci, former secretary of state James Baker III,

and representatives of the bin Laden family. This was not some

underground presidential bunker or Central Intelligence Agency

interrogation room. It was the Ritz-Carlton in Washington, D.C., the

plush setting for the annual investor conference of one of the most

powerful, well-connected, and secretive companies in the world: the

Carlyle Group. And since September 11, this little-known company has

become unexpectedly important. That the Carlyle Group had its

conference on America's darkest day was mere coincidence, but there

is nothing accidental about the cast of characters that this

private-equity powerhouse has assembled in the 14 years since its

founding. Among those associated with Carlyle are former U.S.

President George Bush Sr., former U.K. Prime Minister John Major, and

former President of the Philippines Fidel Ramos. And Carlyle has

counted, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdul Aziz Alsaud of Saudi

Arabia, and Osama bin Laden's family among its high-profile

clientele."

"The White House is bordered on three sides by buildings that are as

tall or taller than itself. (OEOB, Treasury, and Blair House.) Beyond

these buildings there are still more buildings, that also are taller

than the White House. The only flight path that is relatively

unobstructed if making a controlled, straight-in approach, is from

the south, over the ellipse. Even the Marine helicopter the president

uses comes in from this direction and lands on the South Lawn. The

problem with flying a plane the size of a 757 or 767 in from this

direction is that there's a 555 ft tall structure in the way called

the Washington Monument. The Capitol, although a bigger target, is

similarly situated. There are buildings on all sides except for the

west side, which faces the Mall. Again, for a controlled, straight-in

approach, a pilot first would need to avoid the Washington Monument,

and then fly straight down the Mall. There is more room to do this,

but again, it would take considerable skill. Moreover, the buildings

in Roslyn, just across the river from and to the west of the Mall,

would have to be cleared, which means the plane's altitude would

probably be too high, or the angle of descent too steep to permit a

successful attack by anyone other than a skilled, experienced pilot."

To indicate September 1990 one might well write or type 9/90

It was in September of 1990 that President George Herbert Walker

Bush spoke to Congress on Iraq. On September 11th, 1990 in fact.

What of EgyptAir Flight 990?

Weeks after the last pile of debris from EgyptAir Flight 990 was

pulled from the sea, investigators say they are more

convinced than ever of their original theory: The jet was crashed

deliberately."

"The co-pilot under scrutiny in the crash of EgyptAir Flight 990

uttered

an Arabic prayer not once but as many as 10 times just

before the doomed airliner went down"

"Aviation Analyst John Nance Talks About Flight 990 When a commercial

aircraft goes into a dive as steep and precipitous as the preliminary

radar data seems to indicate."

An example of terrorists striking on an anniversary

came on October 7th, 2004 in Taba.

"Images of Destruction | Taba Hilton Before and After Terrorist

Attack on October 7, 2004"

According to initial findings Naveh said, a car bomb blew up at the

entrance to the Hilton Taba Hotel and there was a combined bomb and

shooting attack in two restaurants usually frequented by Israelis in

Ras Al-Satan."

http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/40208...

On October 7th,2001 "America Retaliates for the September 11

Attacks. October 7, 2001 President George W. Bush Speaks to America

After the Strikes Begin.

"On October 7th, 1959, Saddam and others attempted, but failed, to

assassinate the prime minister of Iraq. Wanted by the Iraqi

government, Saddam was forced to flee. He lived in exile in Syria

for three months and then moved to Egypt where he lived for three

years."

http://history1900s.about.com/od/saddamh...

"President Saddam Hussein chairs 48th Cabinet Session Baghdad, Oct.

22, 2001 INA

President Saddam Hussein chaired on Sunday the 48th Cabinet session.

The Cabinet discussed recent events of Palestinian Intifadha and

praised Palestinians brave and

persistent struggle for liberating their lands. The cabinet reviewed

the current international

situation, especially the U.S aggression on Afghanistan. The Cabinet

brought back a historic

stance Iraq had taken in 1979 when it condemned the military Soviet

invasion of Afghanistan though Iraq had then deep relations with the

Soviet Union and there was a

friendship and cooperation agreement between Iraq and the Soviet

Union, yet this had not prevented Iraq from taking the national

independent stand rejecting Soviet's behavior. History repeats itself

once again in 2001 as Iraq takes the same stance and condemns the US

aggression on Afghanistan....this confirms Iraq's principled stance

rejecting all forms of foreign intervention and aggressions. The

Cabinet discussed issues listed on its agenda and made necessary

decisions and recommendations."

Saddam loves 11th anniversaries, for instance " Saddam Hussein's

speech on the 11th Anniversary of the Great Victory Day In the Name

of God, Most Compassionate, Most

Merciful Great People, The Valiant of Our Brave Armed Forces, Sons of

our Glorious Arab Nation…"

"Middle East Correspondent, Robert Fisk: Why was it that the bombing

of the two

embassies in Tanzania and Kenya occurred on the eighth anniversary to

the very day of the first arrival of American troops of the 82nd

airborne in Saudi Arabia in 1990?"

"The 12th of October 2002 will for the rest of Australian history be

counted as a day when evil

struck with indiscriminate and indescribable savagery,"

"On October 12th, 2000 terrorists in a boat laden with explosives

carried out a

suicide bombing of the U.S.S. Cole in the harbor at Aden, Yemen. In

what President Clinton described as a "despicable and cowardly act,"

17 U.S. sailors were killed, and over 30 others were wounded."

After the liberation of Iraq terrorists struck the Baghdad Hotel on

October 12th.

If you add 1 to 9 you get 10. If you add 1 to 11 you get 12. Thus

the 9/11/2001 attack

was presaged by the attack on the U.S.S. Cole on 10/12/2000. The

terrorists were

engaging in what to them was a private joke regarding their plans

for 9/11/2001.

"Iraq has the motivation and the means to actively support the

Islamist networks of the region*** In the past, there have been

intelligence reports of possible cooperation between Iraq and Osama

bin Laden. Iraq has already tried to assassinate President Bush

Senior in 1993, when he visited Kuwait as a private citizen. In the

attack

on the USS Cole in Aden (in) October (of 2000), there could have

been an

Iraqi connection. Iraq has excellent relations with the anti-Western

Yemeni Islamists of the Army of Aden-Abyan, whose militants have been

arrested by the Yemenite authorities in connection with the attack.

Such an attack required long preparations, technical and military

skills and good operational intelligence. In addition, the explosive

used in the attack was sophisticated, a "shaped charge" like a

torpedo or a missile, a device not in use by terrorist

organizations, and

which may have come from a military stockpile."

4 DAYS BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 Saddam's Stepson in USA

"Authorities said Saffi" (Saddam's Stepson), " triggered red flags

for four reasons: the family relationship to the Iraqi dictator;

training

at an American flight school; arrival on the eve of the Independence

Day celebrations; and his only documented prior entry into the United

States occurred just four days before the Sept. 11 terrorist

attacks."

"Saddam's Stepson to Be Deported Fri Jul 5th 2002 (Saffi) was

planning to study at a flight school believed by the FBI

to have been used by one of the Sept. 11 hijackers."

"US officials state that an FBI investigation had substantiated

charges that the Iraqi government plotted the assassination of former

President Bush while visiting Kuwait in April 1993."

"Terrorist Pilot Met With Iraqi Intelligence Agent By RICK JERVIS

Special to The Wall Street Journal Europe Wall Street Journal,

Europe October 4, 2001 [With thanks to Laurie Mylroie - Iraq News]

PRAGUE-Mohamed Atta, who

allegedly crashed the first plane into the World Trade Center on

Sept. 11, met at least one Iraqi intelligence agent last year in

Prague

before moving to the U.S., a Czech official close to the

investigation

said."

United Airlines Flight 175 which left Boston's Logan Airport bound

for Los Angeles before being piloted into the South Tower of the

World Trade Center.

UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY 15 December 1988 43/175.

Question of Palestine

RECORDED VOTE ON RESOLUTION 43/175 A: 123-2-20

Did Anniversary Assassins Strike Again November 22nd 2004

What do you think the chances are that the plane crash which would

have killed the 41st President of the United States, George Herbert

Walker Bush,had he been on board the plane which was enroute from

Love Field in Dallas, Texas to pick him up, on the 41st anniversary

of the assassination of JFK 11/22/1963 was a botched assassination

attempt? Saddam Hussein, who may be running the show from his jail

cell, assassinated his first victim when he was 11 years old, took

power in Iraq in 1968, made it official 11 years later in 1979,

invaded Kuwait 11 years later in 1990 sent bin Laden to assassinate

former President Bush 11 years later on 9/11/2001 on the 11th

anniversary to the day of the 9/11/1990 Bush speech to Congress on

Iraq in which Bush mentioned The New World Order."US plans to

dominate the world under the cover of what is called the new [world]

order. These are the fruits of the new US order. [Video of explosion

rocking World Trade Center] [Description of Source: Baghdad Republic

of Iraq Television in Arabic-Official television station of the

Iraqi Government." The World Trade Center looked so much like the

number 11 that WPIX-TV Channel 11 in New York City used the World

Trade Center as its logo. Note 11 times 2 equals 22. The Madrid

attacks were done exactly 911 days after 9/11/2001. Sadat,

criticized by arafat and Saddam for making peace with Israel, was

assassinated on 10/6/1981 exactly 8 years after the 10/6/1973 Yom

Kippur War in which he failed to defeat Israel. The American

Embassies in Africa were hit on August 8th, 1998, exactly 8 years

after the US entered Saudi Arabia in response to Saddam's invasion

of Kuwait. A gentlemanly John Connally reaches to remove his hat as

Jackie Kennedy enters presidential limousine at Love Field, Dallas,

November 22, 1963

Source: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/images/jbc-lo...

The shocking news that narco-terrorists in Colombia plotted to

assassinate current President George W. Bush on Monday November

22nd, 2004,

the 41st anniversary of the JFK assassination, needs some

examination.

BCCI, the infamous drug-terror-arms bank that allegedly gave former

President Jimmy Carter $10 million for the Carter Library,had

offices in Peru, where

coca leaves are grown, in Colombia, where the coca leaves are

processed into cocaine, and in Castro's Cuba, and Baathist Syria and

Baathist Iraq. Banks

did not get offices in any of those 3 tyrannies without the approval

of the tyrant.

"Colombian Rebels Planned to Kill President Bush

November 27th, 2004 U.S. National - Reuters

By Hugh Bronstein BOGOTA, Colombia (Reuters) - President Bush was

targeted for assassination by Colombia's biggest Marxist rebel group

this week when he visited the Caribbean port city of Cartagena, a

top Colombian official said on Saturday. "According to informants

and various sources, we had information indicating that various

members of the FARC had been instructed by their leaders to make an

attempt against President Bush," Defense Secretary Jorge Alberto

Uribe told reporters. He would not be drawn out on the details of

the threat. The White House had no immediate comment.

The U.S. Secret Service, which protects the president, said it "does

not comment or release information regarding our protective

intelligence and protective methods." "We do not discuss any alleged

threats to our protectees," said Jonathan Cherry, a Secret Service

spokesman.

There was heavy security in Cartagena when Bush visited the city on

Monday(November 22nd, 2004)on his way back from the APEC forum in

Chile. Military helicopters packed with armed soldiers flew over

Bush's motorcade while naval vessels kept watch offshore. Many shops

were shuttered."

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/news?

tmpl=story%26amp;u=/nm/20041127/us_nm/colomb...

"In early August, 1991, the Committee was provided with documents

from the Latin American and Caribbean Region Office (LACRO) of BCCI,

describing the offer for sale by the Argentine air force of 22

Mirage aircraft for $110 million. (63) The planned sale was to have

been made to Iraq, as part of Saddam Hussein's massive military

buildup prior to the Gulf war. BCCI was acting as the broker for the

transaction, which was to take place in August or September of

1989...As Robert Mazur, the Customs agent in Tampa who selected BCCI

as the target of the Customs money laundering sting testified, BCCI

bank executives volunteered methods to enhance and improve his

techniques for money laundering, and shortly before the sting ended

the operation, offered to introduce Mazur to other potential "cash"

customers for money laundering services from Bogota, Colombia...."

Source: http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt...

"The Ba'ath leadership gave the orders for Qasim's assassination...On

October 7th,1959, a six-,man assassination squad was waiting...the

night before one member of the squad had fallen ill. A new recruit

was drafted in...his full name was Saddam Hussein al-Takriti."

Page 22

"The Ba'athist led forces...participated in the coup of 8th February

1963...Immediately after the coup, Saddam Hussein returned to Iraq,

where he was appointed as the head of Al-Jihaz Al Khas, known

popularly as Jihaz Haneen (the Yearning Apparatus), the clandestine

intelligence organization of the Ba'ath Party. Saddam proceeded to

turn it into an instrument of terror....on 18th November (1963) the

army seized power in a swift military coup...the new leadership of

the Ba'ath Party...was arrested. However, some of its members

immediately collaborated with the new regime..." Pgs 25-26

"7th October 1959 A Ba'athist assassination squad fails to kill

Qasim. A member of the team, twenty-two-year old Saddam Hussein,

escapes to Syria and then to Egypt...8th February 1963 A Ba'athist

coup overthrows Quasim amidst several days of terrible street

fighting...18th November 1963 Following bitter infighting

between...factions of the Baath, Arif overthrows the Ba'athist

regime..." Pages 312-313

"Saddam...inherited from his uncle an admiration for Nazi

principles...he was attracted to the ideas of the Ba'ath nationalist

movement. The movement had been established in Damascus in 1943"

(when Syria was a French colony and Hitler ruled France) "by two

Syrians, Greek Orthodox Christian Michel A'flaq and Sunni Muslim

Salah al-Bitar. Their philosophy was based on the ideology of German

national socialism" (Nazism) "and on Italian fascism." Page 199

"After the Ba'ath Party came to power in February 1963...Saddam was

promoted into the Regional Command Council and it was soon found

that this was his metier. He was put in charge of a special force

responsible for terror and assassination and was an interrogator and

torturer in the Qasr al-Nihayyat (`The Palace of the End').

Eyewitnesses say Saddam excelled in creating new methods and

revealed a sadistically inventive mind. He designed new instruments

of torture and then experimentd with them on his victims. ...By the

summer of 1963, Saddam was urging the party to put him in charge of

creating a special security apparatus modelled on the Nazi SS. This

was the Jihaz Haneen....following nationalisation of banks and

certain foreign companies in 1964, the Ba'ath Party instructed

Saddam to assassinate the president Abd al-Salam Arif. The proposed

assassination was designed to trigger off another Ba'ath coup.

Critics say it was a plan on behalf of the CIA but according to some

Ba'athist defectors the CIA did not have direct contact with the

Ba'ath itself but with army officers who were co-ordinating a joint

coup with the party. The main contact with the Americans was Iraq's

own ambassador in Washington, Dr. Nasser al-Hanni." Pages 201-203

"The second part of the plot was carried out by the Jihaz

Haneen...Members of the Iraqi Jewish community...were...arrested.

Eleven of them were among the first fourteen `spies' to be pubicly

hanged on 27th January 1969....The public hangings turned into a

national holiday with live television and radio coverage, and the

Ba'ath Party organized the transport of some hundred

thousand `workers and peasants' from outside Baghdad to join

in...Families picknicked under trees while watching the hangings.

This public orgy of death went on for twenty-four hours..." Page 206

Source: Unholy Babylon-The Secret History of Saddam's War by Adel

Darwish and Gregory Alexander St. Martin's Press, New York 1991

ISBN 0-312-06530-2

"Compare the January 1969 show trial with another spectacle

organized by the first Ba'thi regime in 1963 and designed to counter

the continuing popularity of the ousted president, `Abd al-Karim

Qassem, among certain sectors of the Shi'ite population of Baghdad.

In the first week of the coup, the citizens of al-Thawra, a suburb

of Baghdad, had fought the army and Ba'thist militia in some of the

bloodiest street battles in the history of the country. They refused

to believe that Qassem had been overthrown....The Ba'ath...dealt

with this emotive imagery by televising a lengthy film clip

displaying Qassem's bullet-ridden corpse. Night after night, they

made their gruesome point. The body was propped up on a chair in the

studio. A soldier saunter around, handling its parts. The camera

would cut to scenes of devastation at the Ministry of Defence where

Qassem had made his last stand. There, on location, it lingered on

the mutilated corpses of Qassem's entourage...Back to the studio,

and close-ups now of the entry and exit points of each bullet hole.

The whole macabre sequence closes with a scene that must forever

remain etched on the memory of all those who saw it: the soldier

grabbing the lolling head by the hair, came right up close, and spat

full face into it. The fear that the Ba'th were trying to instill in

this and other instances was brutally direct. The centuries-old

message was simple: he is dead, you had better believe it, we can do

the smae to you. The fact that it was on television extended its

reach..." Pages 58-59.

Source: Republic of Fear The Inside Story of Saddam's Iraq by Samir

al Khalil Pantheon Books, New York 1989 ISBN 0-679-73502-X

"An Afghani tends to a field of heroin poppies, the sale of which

provides much of the financing for the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.

Afghanistan is the world's No. 1 producer and distributor of heroin,

and illicit drug trafficking is the biggest funding source for

By Rachel Ehrenfeld / Special to The Detroit News About the author

Rachel Ehrenfeld is director of the New York-based Center for the

Study of Corruption and the author of "Evil Money" (HarperBusiness)

and "Narco-Terrorism" (Basic Books).

Moving the money...

In the welter of events following the bombing of the World Trade

Center in Feb. 26, 1993, few noticed that the first man arrested,

Mohammed Salameh—the poor, unemployed illegal immigrant—

offered $5 million for bail. Where could he get this kind of money?

The judge refused bail. But was the source of Salameh's offer the

same as the one that funded the eight men—arrested shortly

afterward—who planned to blow up Manhattan's tunnels and bridges

and to assassinate public officials?

Were the same money sources behind the final attack on the World

Trade Center on Sept. 11?

... For a long time, there has been evidence that terrorist,

international drug trafficking and criminal organizations use the

same fund-raising methods to enrich themselves.

Yet no one seemed to connect the dots. And no one seriously tried to

crack down on their financing.

Bin Laden's is only one among many hostile international criminal

organizations, often state-sponsored, that will do whatever they can

to diminish the status of the United States as the only superpower.

According to a State Department report, the Taliban, who are at bin

Laden's service, has the advantage of controlling the world's

largest heroin production and distribution in the world.

Since the Taliban took over Afghanistan, the heroin production

soared to hundreds of tons each year. In 1999 alone, the world

production of heroin was estimated at 500 metric tons; 400 were

produced by the Taliban and available to fund bin Laden and his

associates worldwide. First warning

The writing was on the wall on July 5, 1991, when the Bank of

England shut down what was the most important Islamic bank in the

world, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). This

criminal entity was created by the Pakistani Aaga Hassan Abedi "to

fight the evil influence of the West"; to help with the creation of

the "Islamic Bomb"; to finance all Muslim terrorist organizations;

and to launder the money that was generated mostly by illicit drug

trafficking and other illegal activities, including arms

trafficking.

When BCCI went belly up, we learned from thousands of documents that

Abu Nidal—the notorious Palestinian terrorist organization that

now enjoys the hospitality of Iraq's Saddam Hussein, the Palestine

Liberation Organization (PLO), Hezbollah and bin Laden—had

accounts in the bank. By the end of the 1980s, the "special

services" provided by BCCI included access to Western humanitarian

and international development funds, as well as drug money

laundering, secret transfers of cash and bribes.

A "Black Network," a special enforcement unit supported by Abu Nidal

and other terrorist organizations, operated from Pakistan. The same

Pakistan that harbored bin Laden for many years while its officials

told the United States that they didn't know his whereabouts. And

the same Pakistan that for decades, even according to the State

Department's annual report, had been a major drug trafficking and

money laundering center.

Western blindness

Yet, now more importantly, we also discovered that the American and

British governments knew and kept the bank open for a long time. The

bank "that would bribe God" was able to get away with its criminal

activities for decades due to Abedi's clever portrayal of the Muslim

nations as victims of Western—and particularly U.S.—

"imperialism." And when the bank was shuttered, the accusation in

the Muslim/Arab and Third World countries was that the U.S. and the

United Kingdom governments closed the bank to curtail the growing

fiscal power of Muslim countries.

Like Abedi, anti-American, anti-Western terrorist and radical Muslim

states and organizations, such as the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hamas,

Hezbollah, the PLO, Iraq and Iran, use Western democratic rhetoric

to their advantage. But it is the willful blindness, mainly toward

the growing volume of drug money laundering, exercised by Western

bankers on the one hand and Western politicians on the other, that

makes money laundering possible, despite the many laws and

international conventions to control this phenomenon.

The BCCI was the first warning to the West. The second warning about

the abuse of European and American financial markets by terrorist

organizations, as well as their involvement in the illicit arms and

drug trade, was made in February 1994 by the British National

Criminal Intelligence Service (NCIS).

The Organized Crime Unit of the NCIS warned that Middle East

terrorist groups and states were targeting the financial centers of

London, Frankfurt and other Western countries, and that they favor

illegal drug trafficking, money laundering and fraud....

Clinton appeasement

Despite its stated policy of not negotiating with terrorists, the

Clinton administration went out of its way to appease a few of the

20th century's most notorious terror groups: the Revolutionary Armed

Forces of Colombia (FARC), the PLO and the Irish Republican Army.

All are heavily involved in the drug trade.

On the eve of the 1993 handshake on the White House lawn between

Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak Rabin and PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat,

Britain's National Criminal Intelligence Service estimated the PLO's

ill-gotten gains to total between $8 billion to $10 billion, with an

annual income of about $1.5 billion to $2 billion from "donations,

extortion, payoffs, illegal arms dealing, drug trafficking, money

laundering, fraud, etc."

Since then, Washington has only aided and abetted the PLO. Since the

start of the Oslo process, Arafat has received at least $3 billion

more from the United States and the international community, without

any serious demand for accountability, according to a report this

year to Congress. Arafat, in well-documented instances, has been

systematically skimming off portions of these funds, as he has with

monies given to him on behalf of the refugees in the camps.

The PLO was in the drug trafficking business almost from the

beginning. Operating from Lebanon, under Habash's able leadership

and assisted by a PLO-owned shipping company SUMUD, the organization

exported hashish, opium, heroin and cocaine, first to Europe and

later even to the United States and Australia. In return, it

obtained weapons for their war against Israel and the West, and

amassed a massive treasure trove. In addition, the PLO and Arafat,

who enjoy the financial and strategic support of Hussein and bin

Laden, have the distinction of being the organization that

promoted "suicide bombers" as a weapon.

Yet the Clinton administration subsidized a multitude of radical

Palestinian groups, ranging from Arafat's Fatah branch of the PLO

and its military wing, the Tanzim, to the socialist-nationalist

Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), headed by

George Habash, all with close ties to bin Laden, Iraq and Iran.

...It was the Clinton White House that, despite evidence to the

contrary, removed Syria from its list of the drug trafficking

countries, to entice Syria to join the "peace process" in the Middle

East.

The failure of that process and the compromises the United States

has made to maintain an illusion of peaceful prospects had no doubt

added to the Muslim radical terrorists' resolve to attack what they

see as a naive and vulnerable America.

In another example of self-delusion, in 1999, then Secretary of

State Madeleine Albright suggested a U.S.-led coalition to negotiate

with the FARC and supported Colombia President Pastrana's "land for

peace" initiative, despite a report from the General Accounting

Office that the FARC is running a major international criminal

enterprise that, among other things, supplies hundreds of tons of

cocaine and heroin to the U.S. black market.

This second Clinton "land for peace" initiative gave half of

Colombia to the narco-terrorist FARC, while doing nothing to

diminish its violence or appetite to control the rest of the

country...."

Source: http://www.detnews.com/2001/editorial/01...

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon called the Palestinian Authority

a "gang of corrupt assassins and terrorists." "There is an obstacle

[to peace] with the gang of corrupt assassins and terrorists that

lead the Palestinian Authority," Sharon said in a televised speech

in Israel. "The only way to peace is to remove this murderous

posse." – Source:

New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com

Sharon raps Arafat `assassins' By KENNETH R. BAZINET DAILY NEWS

WASHINGTON BUREAU Thursday, August 8th, 2002

"Bush back from surprise Iraq trip

President Bush has arrived back in the United States after a

surprise trip to Baghdad, where he spent two hours with US troops

celebrating Thanksgiving Day.

Mr. Bush told troops the US would not be swayed by ongoing attacks

in Iraq.

"We did not charge hundreds of miles into the heart of Iraq, pay a

bitter cost of casualties, defeat a ruthless dictator and liberate

25 million people only to retreat before a band of thugs and

assassins," he told 600 US soldiers.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_...

"President Bush and his wife, Laura, along with former president

George H. W.

Bush, welcome the King and Queen of Spain, Juan and Sofia Carlos, to

their ranch

Wednesday, Nov. 24, 2004, in Crawford, Texas.(AP Photo/Lawrence

Jackson)"

Source:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?

tmpl=story%26amp;u=/041124/480/txlj101112418...

A small jet chartered to fly former President Bush to Ecuador

Monday,November

22nd, 2004 was well below normal altitude when it clipped a toll

road light

tower and crashed into a muddy field three miles south of Hobby

Airport, killing

the crew of three.The plane, which belonged to Jet Place Inc. of

Tulsa, Okla.,

came from Love Field in Dallas. It was approaching the runway when

the wing and

the landing gear on the right side clipped the pole on a tollway

road....."

"Weeks after the last pile of debris from EgyptAir Flight 990 was

pulled from the sea, investigators say they are more

convinced than ever of their original theory: The jet was crashed

deliberately."

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyN... "The

co-pilot under scrutiny in the crash of EgyptAir Flight 990 uttered

an Arabic prayer not once but as many as 10 times just

before the doomed airliner went down"

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyN...

"Aviation Analyst John Nance Talks About Flight 990 When a commercial

aircraft goes into a dive as steep and precipitous as the preliminary

radar data seems to indicate."

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyN...

"The White House is bordered on three sides by buildings that are as

tall or taller than itself. (OEOB, Treasury, and Blair House.) Beyond

these buildings there are still more buildings, that also are taller

than the White House. The only flight path that is relatively

unobstructed if making a controlled, straight-in approach, is from

the

south, over the ellipse. Even the Marine helicopter the president

uses comes in from this direction and lands on the South Lawn. The

problem with flying a plane the size of a 757 or 767 in from this

direction is that there's a 555 ft tall structure in the way called

the Washington Monument. The Capitol, although a bigger target, is

similarly situated. There are buildings on all sides except for the

west side, which faces the Mall. Again, for a controlled, straight-in

approach, a pilot first would need to avoid the Washington Monument,

and then fly straight down the Mall. There is more room to do this,

but again, it would take considerable skill. Moreover, the buildings

in Roslyn, just across the river from and to the west of the Mall,

would have to be cleared, which means the plane's altitude would

probably be too high, or the angle of descent too steep to permit a

successful attack by anyone other than a skilled, experienced pilot."

Imagine the rage and fury of Saddam Hussein

"On February 26th, 1982 the Reagan Administration told Congress that

it had dropped Iraq from the list of nations that supported acts of

international terrorism. Baghdad would now be eligible for American

government loan guarantees." source: SPIDER'S WEB: THE SECRET HISTORY

OF HOW THE WHITE HOUSE ILLEGALLY ARMED IRAQ by Alan Friedman ASIN:

0553096508

Imagine Saddam's rage and fury when Kuwait was liberated on February

26th, 1991, 9 years to the day after the event described above! Is it

any wonder that Saddam would launch the first of his 2 attacks on the

World Trade Center on February 26th, 1993, the 2nd anniversary of the

liberation of Kuwait City, and the 11th anniversary of the event

described above, and that he would launch his 2nd attack on the World

Trade Center on September 11th, 2001, the 11th anniversary of the

Bush

I speech to Congress on Iraq. Saddam loves 11th anniversaries, for

instance " Saddam Hussein's speech on the 11th Anniversary of the

Great Victory Day In the Name of God, Most Compassionate, Most

Merciful Great People, The Valiant of Our Brave Armed Forces, Sons of

our Glorious Arab Nation…"

http://www.index.com.jo/iraqtoday/august...

Saddam took credit for the September 11th attacks on America on

Baghdad Republic of Iraq Television. Saddam sent his henchman Osama

bin Laden to attack America and to assassinate former President

Bush, who was at the White House on the morning of September 11th,

2001,just as he had tried to assassinate former President Bush in

Kuwait in 1993. That is why Flight 93 was selected to hit the White

House on the morning of September 11th, 2001. Fortunately the heroes

of Flight 93 stopped that from happening and the plane went down in

Pennsylvania.

Second Attempt to Assassinate President Bush.

We all know that Saddam Hussein attempted to assassinate former

President

Bush in Kuwait in 1993. Laura Bush, wife of the current President

Bush,

along with the current President Bush's brothers, his parents, and

former Secretary of State Baker were actually in the air enroute to

Kuwait when the intelligence came in and their plane was turned back.

Then President Clinton later bombed an empty Iraqi intelligence

building

in retaliation for that attempt in which Saddam's homicide bombers

were

caught in Kuwait.

We believe that the Second Attempt to assassinate former President

George Herbert Walker Bush was made by Saddam Hussein using his

henchman Osama bin Laden on September 11th, 2001.

September 11th, 1990 Dubya's Dad Speaks to Congress on Iraq When

September 11th Yes ! September 11th 1990. Exactly 11 years to the

day before the infamous September 11th 2001 attacks on America.

Saddam's Revenge !!! How clear it is!!! "Address Before a Joint

Session of the Congress on the Persian Gulf Crisis and the Federal

Budget Deficit September 11, 1990.

We gather tonight, witness to events in the Persian Gulf as

significant as they are tragic. In the early morning hours of August

2d, following negotiations and promises by Iraq's dictator Saddam

Hussein not to use force, a powerful Iraqi army invaded its trusting

and much weaker neighbor, Kuwait. *** The crisis in the Persian Gulf,

as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an

historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our

fifth

objective-a new world order-can emerge. ***" READ THE WHOLE OF

DUBYA'S

DADDY'S SPEECH TO CONGRESS ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 1990 AT

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/ "Note: The President spoke at 9:09

p.m.in

the House Chamber at the Capitol.. The address was broadcast live on

nationwide television and radio." http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/ Iraq

Cheers September 11th Attacks on America "Wednesday, September 12,

2001 Baghdad TV Commentary: US `Reaping Fruits of Crimes Against

Humanity' Baghdad Republic of Iraq Television in Arabic 1700 GMT 11

Sep 01 [TV Commentary by Sa'd Yasin Yusuf read by announcer over

footage of explosions in New York] [FBIS Translated Text] [With

thanks

to Laurie Mylorie - Iraq Watch] The American cowboy is reaping the

fruits of his crimes against humanity. It is a black day in the

history of America, which is tasting the bitter defeat of its crimes

and disregard for peoples' will to lead a free, decent life. The

massive explosions in the centers of power in America, notably the

Pentagon, is a painful slap in the face of US politicians to stop

their illegitimate hegemony and attempts to impose custodianship on

peoples. It was no coincidence that the World Trade Center was

destroyed in suicidal operations involving two planes that have

broken

through all US security barriers to carry the operation of the

century

and to express rejection of the reckless US policy. Panic has spread

among US official circles, which evacuated the White House following

a

series of explosions. They also evacuated the Pentagon, the State

Department, and Congress and closed down the airports and government

institutions. The collapse of US centers of power is a collapse of

the

US policy, which deviates from human values and stands by world

Zionism at all international forums to continue to slaughter the

Palestinian Arab people and implement US plans to dominate the world

under the cover of what is called the new [world] order. These are

the

fruits of the new US order. [Video of explosion rocking World Trade

Center] [Description of Source: Baghdad Republic of Iraq Television

in

Arabic-Official television station of the Iraqi Government]"

http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3

"BLITZER: That's Osama bin Laden's group. Now you also have some

new information, David, about Mohamed Atta. He's the suspected

ringleader of the September 11th hijackings.

ENSOR: Well, that's right. As you know, he was one of the suicide

hijackers who died on September 11th on one of those aircraft. And we

had previously reported on September 19th that he met with an Iraqi

intelligence official somewhere in Europe. Well, I'm now able to tell

you, based on information from U.S. sources, he met not once but

twice with Iraqi intelligence officers in Prague in the Czech

Republic:

once last year in June of 2000 and once in April of 2001."

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0110/10/l...

Aired 9/11/2001 "Baghdad Republic of Iraq TV: These are

the fruits of the new US order.[Video of explosion rocking World

Trade

Center]Panic has spread among US official circles, which evacuated

the White House following a series of explosions."

"CNN LARRY KING LIVE Aired October 2, 2001 LARRY KING: Have you

spoken to your father- in-law? (George Herbert Walker Bush)

LAURA BUSH: I've spoken to my father-in-law. They were-they had

actually spent that Monday night here.(at the White House) I had

just seen them off that morning (9/11/2001) when I got in the car

and found out about the first plane.(going into the World Trade

Center.)" http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0110/02/l...

"Senator Joseph Lieberman: (Saddam) tried to kill former President

Bush (in 1993)"

http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPT...

Former President Bush Speech to Congress September 11th 1990. 11

years to the day before September 11th 2001 "In the early morning

hours of August 2d,(1990),a powerful Iraqi army invaded Kuwait.The

crisis in the Persian Gulf also offers a rare opportunity to move

toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled

times, our fifth objective-a new world order-can emerge."

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/

"(White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer: we have real and

credible information that the airplane that landed at the Pentagon

was originally intended to hit the White House."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/...

8.html#intended-targets

"White House Was Flight 93 Target

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/2...

A high-ranking al Qaeda detainee told investigators the intended

target of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a

Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11, was the White House. Government

sources said Abu Zubaydah, now in U.S. custody, believed to be the

source of the information." "Moussaoui Says He Was to Hijack 5th

Plane

By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer (Monday March 27, 2006)

Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and

would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth

airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.

Moussaoui's testimony on his own behalf stunned the courtroom. His

account was in stark contrast to his previous statements in which he

said the White House attack was to come later if the United States

refused to release a radical Egyptian sheik imprisoned on earlier

terrorist convictions.

On Dec. 22, 2001, Reid was subdued by passengers when he attempted

to detonate a bomb in his shoe aboard American Airlines Flight 63

from Paris to Miami. There were 197 people on board. The plane was

diverted to Boston, where it landed safely.

Moussaoui told the court he knew the World Trade Center attack was

coming and that he lied to investigators when arrested in August

2001 because he wanted it to happen.

"You lied because you wanted to conceal that you were a member of al-

Qaida?" prosecutor Rob Spencer asked.

"That's correct," Moussaoui said.

Spencer: "You lied so the plan could go forward?"

Moussaoui: "That's correct."

The exchange was key to the government's case that the attacks might

have been averted if Moussaoui had been more cooperative following

his arrest.

Moussaoui told the court he knew the attacks were coming some time

after August 2001 and bought a radio so he could hear them unfold.

Specifically, he said he knew the World Trade Center was going to be

attacked, but asserted he was not part of that plot and didn't know

the details.

Nineteen men pulled off the Sept. 11 attacks on New York in

Washington in the worst act of terrorism ever on U.S. soil.

"I had knowledge that the Twin Towers would be hit," Moussaoui

said. "I didn't know the details of this."

Asked by his lawyer why he signed his guilty plea in April as "the

20th hijacker," Moussaoui replied: "Because everybody used to refer

to me as the 20th hijacker and it was a bit of fun."

Before Moussaoui took the stand, his lawyers made a last attempt to

stop him from testifying, but failed. Defense attorney Gerald Zerkin

argued that his client would not be a competent witness because he

has contempt for the court, only recognizes Islamic law and

therefore "the affirmation he undertakes would be meaningless."

Moussaoui at first denied he was to have been a fifth hijack pilot

Sept. 11 but under cross examination spoke of the plan that would

have him attack the White House. He said Reid was the only person he

knew for sure would have been on that mission, but others were

discussed.

The 19 terrorists on Sept. 11 hijacked and crashed four airliners,

killing nearly 3,000 people in the World Trade Center, the Pentagon

and on the planes. The intended target of the plane that crashed

into a Pennsylvania field remains unknown.

Moussaoui said he talked with an al-Qaida official in 1999 about why

a 1993 bombing at the World Trade Center failed to bring the towers

down. He said "was asked in the same period for the first time if I

want to be a suicide pilot and I declined."

Just before Moussaoui took the stand, the court heard testimony that

two months before the attacks that a CIA deputy chief waited in vain

for permission to tell the FBI about a "very high interest" al-Qaida

operative who became one of the hijackers.

The official, a senior figure in the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit,

said he sought authorization on July 13, 2001, to send information

to the FBI but got no response for 10 days, then asked again.

As it turned out, the information on Khalid al-Mihdhar did not reach

the FBI until late August. At the time, CIA officers needed

permission from a special unit before passing certain intelligence

on to the FBI.

The official was identified only as John. His written testimony was

read into the record.

"John's" testimony was part of the defense's case that federal

authorities missed multiple opportunities to catch hijackers and

perhaps thwart the 9/11 plot.

His testimony included an e-mail sent by FBI supervisor Michael

Maltbie discussing Moussaoui but playing down his terrorist

connections. Maltbie's e-mail said "there's no indication that

(Moussaoui) had plans for any nefarious activity."

He sent that e-mail to the CIA even after receiving a lengthy memo

from the FBI agent who arrested Moussaoui and suspected him of being

a terrorist with plans to hijack aircraft.

Prosecutors argue that Moussaoui, a French citizen, thwarted a prime

opportunity to track down the 9/11 hijackers and possibly unravel

the plot when he was arrested in August 2001 on immigration

violations and lied to the FBI about his al-Qaida membership and

plans to hijack a plane.

Had Moussaoui confessed, the FBI could have pursued leads that would

have led them to most of the hijackers, government witnesses have

testified.

To win the death penalty, prosecutors must first prove that

Moussaoui's actions — specifically, his lies — were directly

responsible for at least one death on Sept. 11.

If they fail, Moussaoui would get life in prison.

___

Associated Press Writer Michael J. Sniffen contributed to this report

source:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/ap_o...

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What is the relationship between 911 and Saddam?
I think Hillery Clinton summarized Saddam's relationship with 9/11 best ..

In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

As a sanctuary and an aid to al qaeda the threat of WMD including nuclear possibilities made him an important target for the well being of the US and the world. Afghanistan alone is not a threat , it did not have the capabilities of Iraq which is why both areas became targets..
Reply:interesting quote Report Abuse

Reply:Face it folks, President Bush has worked to do what is in the best interest of the United States of American. Not the UN!! Report Abuse

Reply:There is no connection between Iraq and 9/11.

This quote doesn't even claim that there is.

To do so would be misleading at best. Report Abuse

Reply:Looks like Hillary was drinking the same KoolAid Colin Powell was served by the Bushies. Report Abuse

Reply:You Americans are pigs...blindly accusing others of faults while you yourselves are the greatest threat to world peace. Watch Iran sink your ships and drive you out of the desert. Report Abuse

Reply:Not true..Not good answer.. Report Abuse

Reply:Saddam Hussein's former position being AGAINST Al Qaeda has gone on record on multiple occasions. By the way, President Bush hasn't done anything to benefit the best interest of America, unless you consider benefit as ruining our economy and image in the world. Report Abuse

Reply:@ ELITE: You're saying that we people of the United States point the finger too much, yet you can state that while pointing your finger at Americans as a whole? I'm sorry, the last time I was in the Middle East, I just couldn't stop accusing everyone of faults. I just can't help it. Report Abuse

Reply:I'm a citizen of the United States yet I'm not a threat to world peace or one to be accusing anybody of faults except for you right now, who appears to have a somewhat biased and deluted insight of people here. Report Abuse

Reply:Our government has made many questionable moves indeed, but to accuse all individuals in this country of playing some direct role in that and what's been happening abroad is simply ludicrous. Report Abuse

Reply:So, I ask you, please look at your own lack of insight before judging the insight of others, as you're clearly acting just as blindly as you claim all of us Americans are. Thank you. Report Abuse

Reply:LOOOONNNNNGGGGGG QUESTION THERE BUDDY. Report Abuse

Reply:Bush and Oil? Perhaps!!!! Report Abuse

Reply:This whole thing is the most ridiculous, stereotypically American post I've ever seen. Please don't support the world's current view of you. Report Abuse

Reply:There was no relation between Saddam and 911 what so ever

reed the new book for George Tenet to see that the administration fabricate the information to attack iraq Report Abuse

Reply:Since we all know the Bush Administration and Hillary Clinton to be full of complete and utter nonsense, why are people still supporting them? Face it everyone, you can't think for yourselves and you are moved by unfounded fear. Report Abuse

Reply:If Hilliary Clinton said what the Best Answerer said she did, then Hilliary is as big a liar as her husband and George Bush are. In 2002, a lot of lies were being told about Saddam having nukes and other WMDs, and having a connection to Al Quaeda. All of it was false. Report Abuse

Reply:Elohimself....

Saddam had 500 tons of nuclear material...

more than enough to make several nukes..

Yes he didnt have the centrifuges, but it wouldnt take much more..

Reality is he would be nuclear by now if we hadnt gone in anyway..

Even without BUSH, there was more than enough reason to go in. Report Abuse

Reply:The "big lie about Sadaam's connection to alQaeda %26amp; 911," big oil interests, %26amp; the fear of a nuclear mushroom cloud, were all used by Bush43 %26amp; the Neocons to mislead the US people and our elected representatives into going into Iraq %26amp; the Vietnam-like nightmare. Report Abuse

Reply:how did you fit that in there Report Abuse

Reply:you expect me to read all that? Report Abuse

Reply:both sides are nuts on this.

We was right to go after saddam, and there is no connection between 911 %26amp; saddam other than:

Terrorism isnt just alqueda.

Saddam needed to be eliminated as he did in fact hide wmd in Syria (recently proven btw). Report Abuse

Reply:I'm not reading a mouth full. I am also wonderring how you fit all of that in there. Based on your question, 911 and Saddam have NO RELATIONSHIP. Both are not terrorists. President Bush is a terrorist since he encouraged all the attacks from the start, even 911. Report Abuse

Reply:he paid for the flying lessons.
Reply:Nothing really. Saddam was perceived to be a threat due the possibility that he had weapons of mass destruction. Maybe he did. Todays nuclear weapons can be transported in a tractor trailer and then easily burried in the desert. So we may never know. However, unless you buy the weapons, nuclear weapons require a little more obvious construction processes and these were never known to exist. Iran has this and Iran does knowingly support terrorist. If we let Iran get nuclear weaponry, they will definitely supply terrorist. This cannot be allowed to happen. This is about survival. Saddam was his own terrorist. He probaly would not support terrorist for they are the competition to him.
Reply:Nothing really.

Unless the question is a joke, in which case...

If you call Saddam and 911 at the same time which one would get there quicker? lol.
Reply:Nothing
Reply:NONE .
Reply:None, GW Bush wanted to get Saddam because Saddam threatened to kill G Bush Sr during the first Gulf War.
Reply:nothing, although what he was doing was wrong, saddam was just a divescapegoat for 911.

someone america could blame and take anger for what happened for 911.
Reply:There was none, nor did anybody ever claim that. It is sometimes used as a "straw man" argument.

To be very specific, there was collusion between Sadaam and his regime with various terrorist organizations, including Al Quaeda. However, Sadaam nor his officials were not in on the plot which was Al Queda alone.
Reply:911 took place, Saddam rejoiced over the aftermath, and that is the only relationship between the two.....KECK
Reply:you call the police when u see him
Reply:They were both used by the Republicans to distract the American people from what was really going on in the U.S., namely the erosion of civil rights, the destruction of the environment, the pillaging of the national treasury by all of the rich Republicans and their friends, etc..
Reply:Nothing, but he was supporting terrorism.
Reply:read "The Connection" by Stephan F Hayes
Reply:Saddam is the person that we use to call him, the master mind.He and Osama Bin Ladin maybe were together and plan to take over the United States of America. I wish that people don't do that to other people like U.S.A because they might be an another war.(war world 3)I just want to say that don't be a bossy or else I'm gonna kick your ***.
Reply:Saddam helped payroll this emergency number in place here in America, which gave rise to a show hosted by William Shatner.

Reason enough to go to war indeed!

How stupid do the Clintons think we are? My opinion is they think we are wayyy stupid?

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NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli asked Bill Clinton today what he meant when he told WHYY radio that Barack Obama's campaign had played the race card against him. Here is their exchange ...

ME: "Sir, what did you mean yesterday when you said that the Obama campaign was playing the race card on you."

CLINTON: "When did I say that, and to whom did I say that?"

ME: "On WHYY radio yesterday."

CLINTON: "No, no, no. That's not what I said. You always follow me around and play these little games, and I'm not going to play your games today. This is a day about election day. Go back and see what the question was, and what my answer was. You have mischaracterized it to get another cheap story to divert the American people from the real urgent issues before us, and I choose not to play your game today. Have a nice day."

ME: "Respectfully sir, though, you did say ..."

CLINTON: "Have a nice day." [continues shaking hands with supporters]. I said what I said, you can go look at the interview

How stupid do the Clintons think we are? My opinion is they think we are wayyy stupid?
I saw it %26amp; heard it.

I don't get it. I DO NOT get it...

It's embarrassing to anyone with half a brain. And, yes, that includes her supporters.
Reply:I first realized how stupid clinton thinks we are when he said he smoked marijuana, but he didn't inhale.

I realized, that man is a bold faced liar, and he thinks I'm really, really stupid. I'm BJ Clinton's age within a few months. I've smoked marijuana with hundreds of people. No one ever smoked and didn't inhale.
Reply:Bill Clinton has really shown his true colors. I would love to hear him and Hillary exchange thoughts behind closed doors. I really hope we don't have to deal with those two in the white house again. I loved bill. I was calling him the closest thing we'll ever have to a black president. But he had me fooled. Vote obama and let's change America for once.
Reply:Sounds just like Obama, "Oh I guess I may have offended people with my bitter comments, I should have worded it differently."

Obama has played the race card, but if you ask him he'll say "that might be what I said, but what I really meant was......."
Reply:Clinton lying is a known quantity, Obama tells a lot of lies that I have not the slightest idea where he is going with the lie...and because of that, I do not trust him...every time a Clinton lies I see why they lied...and don't think all politicians don't lie because they do...
Reply:Pretty sad when The First Black President, someone who has done more for minorities than anyone in America, is hounded like that. Obamacists make me sick.
Reply:They have a lot of Misses in their campaign.

Misspoke

Misread

Mischaracterized

Don't worry, the people will add on more mis- to their list.

missed the nomination.
Reply:Bill is not doing Hillary any favors with this outbursts...

Obama 2008
Reply:Maybe you can give us a quote of what he did say?
Reply:She probably does think your wayyy stupid, and she's probably right.
Reply:They don't call him Slick Willy for nothing. Where is the video?
Reply:The truth be told Obamas staff did release a meno to play the "Race Card" and they got caught when the meno surfaced and Obama blamed his staff and was suppost to deal with the matter .

Obama will do anything to win this election and his reasons are very unclear .

He is a Racist

He hates America

His wife hates America

His Pastor hates America

His friends hate America

With all this hatred for America why does he want to be President of America

Stranger then weird

Just plain Unamerican

Is my feeling on it.

Did you buy Bubba's story about how he wasn't using the race card but the race card was being?

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used against Hillary?

Once again is Bubba trying to make us think that grass is blue and the sky is green?

That up is down and down is up?

Why does the media keep shoving this sick liar in our face?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/200...

Did you buy Bubba's story about how he wasn't using the race card but the race card was being?
the liberal media is always trying to shove their trash down our throats

thankyou Time Warner

for shoving all this garbage in my face
Reply:The tactics of these sociopaths don't interest me.

It looks like he's trying to get a rise out of people and pit a race war. Sadly, he's playing on the ignorance of his own people.

Let's hope intelligence prevails.
Reply:Stop spreading Obama propaganda. Obama is a scary dude - and his racist big-mouth wife is even scarier. GO HILLARY!
Reply:bill clinton is a power whore.

he will not go away until he is six feet under.

the clintons are the worst scum bags in politics
Reply:I remember a comic from the Sixties, I think it was Nipsy Russell but I could be wrong on that, who had a catch phrase "The Devil made me do it!"

Bill reminds me of that.

** Thanks, yes, Flip Wilson it was. I guess I "beered" that memory cell a long time ago.
Reply:I find it hard to believe the only elected president who was impeached for lying, who was disbarred for lying and who claims not to know the meaning of the word 'is'.

EDIT: open4on it was Flip Wilson's character Geraldine.
Reply:Question.... who in their right mind believes ANYTHING that is said by either Clinton?

Were you asleep during the 90s??

These people should be in JAIL, not in public office. I dont care what Bubba or Hillly say... I trust them as far as I can throw them.
Reply:Yes. I do believe him.. because the " race" card has never been used against the Clinton's in all these years of working for the black community.

The blacks just loved Clinton in his two elections.. couldn't say enough good about him... but then a black man gets in the race and suddenly the Clinton's are mud.. why is that.

Could be a little racism??? you bet.. but it isn't Clinton... look to yourself.

Is Obama using the race card again?!?

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Is he using the race card again by suggesting that the clinton's circulated a pic of him wearing a white turban?! Sadly these tactics worked in south carolina and made that dramatic shift where 9 out of 10 blacks voted for him since then, but is it gonna work on march 4th primaries?

Is Obama using the race card again?!?
When Obama supporters accuse other supporters of being r***t because of not being for Obama, that is where the line in the sand had been drawn.

I am surprised ever since that first day he had Oprah campaigning with him nobody has figured this out yet. Obama's jedi mind tricks must be more powerful than I thought.
Reply:all hail lord obama!!!
Reply:I predict it will not work in March 4th primaries for Obama.

Obama appeared out of no where and is running for Pres. No one knows anything about him. Half his family is Muslim and lives in Africa. Is it now taboo to see family photos of presidential candidates?
Reply:When asked whether her camp circulated this photo, they did not deny it. So where do you think it came from. She and Bill have been race-baiting all along...but of course denying it all. She is losing respect of lots of people. I'm glad HER true colors are coming out....and Bill's. Color the Clintons UGLY.
Reply:Why not use it again if it works?! It sure worked fine before S.C primary and many fools fell for this scam and even suggested that clinton's started the race card when in fact he did. He was the one who jumped on her comment about president LBJ. This guy will use anything to win, so sad.
Reply:Obama will do like he did last night , talk very nice to Hillary , then Stab her in the back, he is a liar and a cheat, and has a friend called Larry Sinclair that does what Obama wants him to do.
Reply:well blacks like to use the race card alot so I wouldn't be surprised. And if he gets elected as president then you'll see these race cards getting played even more.
Reply:What does the votes of blacks have to do with Obama playing the race card? After his Iowa win and A-list political endorsements, blacks were going to vote for him anyway, because he had proven that he was electable. Obama has NEVER used the race card. It was the Clintons that race baited. They did it again by NOT denying that they circulated the photo. They know that they circulated it. It really isn't a big deal, but it is known that many people would try to use it as fuel to tear Obama down.
Reply:I'd like to remind everyone that Barack Obama won the Iowa caucuses, in a lilly-white state like Iowa, with an African-American population of less than 3%. Obama has the support of all ethnicities because it is time for a change.

OBAMA '08.
Reply:The Drudge report's site said that Clinton's campaign provided the photo.
Reply:Im so tired of the stupit race card, why act like children
Reply:He wouldn't have to use the race card if people would stop using race bias to make him look bad.

It's insidious,really.

If he were white, there is no way this picture would be any big deal.

choose roller blades

What "double standard" was Hillary referring to on NPR talk radio earlier?

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Clinton. "I understand that there has been, throughout this campaign, something of a double standard. I accept it; I live with it."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08...

Does it exist or was she playing the sexist/victim card again?

What "double standard" was Hillary referring to on NPR talk radio earlier?
You really don't see it? Seriously?!?!

I don't support her but it's pathetically true. I'll have to dig up a link but an independent study found that something like 80% of Obama news was favorable meanwhile more than half of Clinton's was negative. That's not because Clinton had more negative, it's because Obama got far less scrutiny.

Bill Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro made factual-based comment and were quickly labeled racists by members of the Obama campaign as well as some media. Not once did the media or the Clinton camp call Obama a racist for his "typical white person" comment -- a comment that would have cost someone their political career had they said "black person" instead.

I recall hearing a month or more ago that her list of foreign relations experience were all lies. Media outlets including The Washington Post did a "fact check" on it and agreed much of it was exaggerated. CNN did a followup story and verified (with Dems and Republicans) that virtually everything was true except they could not verify the Bosnia story (sniper fire). For weeks now I've heard about her "LIE" about Bosnia. However, Senator Obama has blatently lied numerous times in speeches including claiming his father was able to come to America due to Kennedy (his dad was here before Kennedy took office) and that his parents had the courage to marry and have a child thanks to the march in Selma (Barack was 4 yrs old when Selma happened). Not a word was mentioned by anyone. He said he never heard his pastor say anything he didn't agree with in interviews and said he did hear things in his speech. Again, not a word -- at least nothing more than a whisper.

The Obama campaign and his supporters have been screaming she needs to drop out because "she can't win" and they've done it so much and so loud that stories are being aired or printed that say there's a "outcry for her to drop out" without ever mentioning that it comes from Obama -- nor does it mention that he cannot win. Neither one can win anymore.

This type of sad, biased journalism drives or kills campaigns and regardless of whether Senator Obama is or isn't more qualified, if he's nominated he can thank the press because they helped him get his lead and keep it.

I guess the idea of keeping it "balanced" in news was doing the same type of thing to Republicans like Ron Paul. So yes, there's a double-standard -- a pretty obvious one if you get news from places other than CNN, MSNBC or Fox.
Reply:I guess she thinks that pointing out the truth is somehow a double standard against her.

Jackie: When I tuned in to cable news a short time ago, it was all about "Obama's racist pastor." Nothing much about Hillary!
Reply:There are a lot of double standards in our society. As a woman, she's benefitted from some of them, and run afoul of others. There's the double-standard based on race that Obama has benefitted from, too.

So, yes, it could one of those she's refering to, and just a matter of playing the gender card and/or objecting to the race card.

I think there's more to it, though. It seem to me that the media has made an unconsious collective judgment in favor of Obama and against Hillary, and there's a double-standard that's just aplied on the two of them, personally.
Reply:Oh Chi Guy, oh my, you have GOT to be kidding. I know ya hate my girl Hill, but come on. Is there any way that you can deny that Obama can play the race card without any repercussions, but if Hillary even dares to mention the obvious double standard people are screaming Off With Her Head! by God she's playing the gender card again? Let's just ignore that there is clearly gender bias going on and has been since the beginning of this campaign just so we can hang her in the Town Square and have a party. Yes, it EXISTS, and any woman who has a connection to reality in this country knows it because she's been living it all of her life.

ACK!
Reply:Did you see the "Saturday Night Live" skit where they had a debate between her %26amp; Obama %26amp; they asked him if he wanted any pillows so he could be more comfortable. It was a funny exaggeration of what she must feel is true. Our society is always that way. If Brad Pitt would enter the race the rest of the candidates wouldn't get any attention again. We like good looks, youth, charisma. She is a 60 year old women who has been in the news for years so people push her to the side to see %26amp; hear Obama.
Reply:She's right. The sexism is the United States is evident. Pointing that out has nothing to do with playing a card. It's reality

It's pretty sad and sickening the way Hillary is treated specially by so called "liberals". Weak immature bunch fainting over Obama, a one term senator who's only claim to the white house are pretty words while barely hiding their outright sexism, not very impressive the liberal establishment.

If Obama was called the N word by part of the liberal blogs and establishment no one would question their racism but when Hillary is called every foul degrading name for a woman the sexism is a question? I don't think so
Reply:I feel the media has been especially harsh and critical with her. Conversely they have fawned all over Obama.

I don't know if it's sexist or what it is but it is something. It's too bad too because she really would be an excellent president but it doesn't look like she's going to get the chance.

I think she was simply making the statement that she was aware of it and she would deal with it the best she could.

Why does everyone make such a big deal about Hurricane Katrina?

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I'm sick of the whole Katrina story myself.... You got hit by a hurricane in a area known for hurricane activity. They should have been prepared. When Hurricane Andrew hit Florida we had no power or running water for weeks. I didn't bitchh that no one came to save my asss. I didn't bitchh when I had to drink out of the bath tub we had filled for extra water. No one paid for the damage to my home, no one paid my electric bill for a year, no one gave me a hotel room or a fema credit card!! I got a couple gallons of water and a bag of rice....kinda hard to boil when you have no power!!! Still I didn't complain. Get over it..... Seems to me like a democratic scandal to undermine president bush to make it seem like he made some kind of gross mistake... Well nothing was said when Clinton was in office and and same thing happened... Point made...

Why does everyone make such a big deal about Hurricane Katrina?
Wow, sick of the whole "Hurricane Katrina story"....interesting. I'm sick of it too...I get to see it everyday!! I live in south Mississippi. Most of your complaints hold partially true to NEW ORLEANS...not Mississippi. We didn't ask for everyone to do the walk for us...we stood back up with the help of others who were kind enough to donate their time and money. To them, I say thank you... Hurricane Katrina makes Andrew look like a little drizzle... Everything is GONE...there weren't any buildings to speak of after the storm...and you're mad at us? Of course this is a hurricane prone area...last storm we really had was Hurricane Georges in 1998. We've dodged a lot, but we get the big bad ones...Camille and Katrina...wow! However, maybe I can move to CA where they have earthquakes or the midwest where they have tornadoes. Maybe I can move to the northeast and participate in the blizzards....you see...no matter where I live...there's going to be a natural disaster waiting to happen. And the way it works is help your fellow citizens in this wonderful country so we can all stand strong again. When you have a hurricane hit you, we'll be there to pick you back up too.

I'm tired of hearing about New Orleans too...a direct hit would have leveled the superdome, much as the entire MS Gulf Coast was leveled. It's about race and silly things now. Louisiana can't even figure out who to blame yet, and Mississippi is steadily rebuilding. We're not there yet; and it will be a while, but it'll be great again. When another storm comes in 30 years to top Katrina...I only hope the people are still as kind as they were this time to come to our aid.

The Sun Herald came out with a special issue of our local paper today about Katrina...48 hours before our lives changed forever. The list of the dead was there...ages 2+..dead! They even had a write up on each and every person...

I would expect someone who knows about hurricanes to be a little more considerate. It's not about complaining. I saw my own relatives work hard all day at their jobs just to come home and start working on rebuilding their homes...a daily routine for many...for months. I see it everyday. I drive by the FEMA trailers on the beach that house families of 4 and 5...my heart is theirs. Why can't yours be?
Reply:And you still don't get it.Points made...zero
Reply:I'm sick of everybody bicthing and complain what happen who did what, everybody better get off their butts and look what coming this week It is ERNESTO. that right, another cane coming to the gulf are the residents ready ? No , they are not they are to busy complaining about Katrina. So get off your lazy butts and shut your mouth and get the frick out of town.RESIDENTS OF NO. DON'T STAY AND PARTY LIKE THE LAST TIME, THE COAST GUARD DID NOT FORGET THAT YOU HAD SHOOT AT THEM, AND FOUGHT TO STAY IN FILTHY WATERS. SO GET OUT NOW YOU HAVE ABOUT 4 DAY HEAD START.

THANK YOU

THIS TIME I WON'T HELP. YOU.

I'm sorry i did not meant to be rude to other vitims in the gulf but NO is the worst. for not listeing to the warnings.
Reply:You make me sick. How can you turn a horrible tragedy into a political statement to back someone - whether it be Republican or Democrat. Yes, Florida gets hit by hurricanes. It is a tragedy none the less. People made a "big deal" out of the historic catagory 5 hurricanes that hit Florida, and people did their best to send anything Florida needed. In New Orleans, big mistakes were made. Many people died because of it. I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S @$$ WHOSE FAULT IT WAS!!!!!
Reply:Because FEMA is suppodsed to help. AND it wasnt all the hurricanes fault, it was also the city's levvy things breaking!
Reply:your point is only made to the poop heads like you. Oh, your jealous of all the attention the hurricane victims are getting ~ poor baby. stop whining! get a life!
Reply:but you don't under stand,these people did nothing before Katrina hit,I live in Georgia the were giving the Katrina people don't want to call them victims because they are not they are moochers I live in Georgia the government gave them debit cards,there were poor black victims going out and buying things live expensive pocketbooks expensive shoes just a lot of junk.We cant help people that don't have the education or the know how to help them self.They are lazy and don't want to help themselves so I guest we will Be there handing out until some one stands up and says this is enough.it want be the Government they are to .scared.
Reply:Are you serious!!!Personally, I feel that the correct protocol was not taken. Many residents of New Orleans did not have power up to 10 hours before the storm so how could one possibly evacuate. Also, it was not the hurricane that caused all the disaster it was the lack of responsibility of the engineer who waited 40 + years to adhere to the codes and upkeep of the levees. When the levees broke that's when all hell broke loose. That's why people blame the govt. Do you believe if the Statue of liberty needed upkeep or maintenance it will be ignored for 30 + years or even the White House. i don't think so? Ignoring the levees was just the political agenda of the big time builders to rebuild New Orleans as a Casino district. they were just awaiting something to destroy and clear as many poor and minorities as they could without paying them off to move. Gentrification, look it up!!

Imagine your 16 year old cousin picked up for a possible suspect for vandalism on Aug. 28, 2005 just because he fit the description of a young black male with a red t-shirt and blue jeans. He sat in a holding cell for 48 hours. Due to all the drama with Katrina he was not given the phone call nor did he get evacuated. As the water grew him and other whom were stopped or detained by the police just set in a cell while the water was rising. They all drowned many were not even convicted nor did they committ crimes (runaways, profiled suspects) See the media left out so many things and you have the audacity to say its whining many people died slow and painfully, watching there lives pass by why the water rose. Our gov't who say the work for all people have their political agendas and the caliber of people whom made up New Orleans did not make their agenda!! And Katrina was an aid in whipping out what they see as the bottom percentage!! President Clinton also did not go to the rescue of other countries before he did the people whom elected him in office. Bush will personally fly is jet to a country where he can benefit from oil, or networking with his family.
Reply:SORRY THAT YOU HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE. I GUESS THAT IS WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT. HOWEVER, YOUR QUESTION SHOWS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE US - THE THOUGHT THAT EVERY MAN SHOULD BE FOR HIMSELF. YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF COMMUNITY. WHEN EVERY ONE OF YOU IS OUT FOR HIMSELF NOBODY WILL BE LEFT TO LOOK AFTER THE COMMON INTEREST. OF COURSE, BY THAT TIME, NOBODY WILL BE PAYING TAXES AND YOU'LL HAVE THE WILD WEST ALL OVER AGAIN.

AS FOR UNDERMINING BUSH, HE IS DOING THAT TO HIMSELF QUITE NICELY WITHOUT ANYONE'S HELP.

INCIDENTALLY, 180,000 JOBS HAVE BEEN LOST FROM NEW ORLEANS. DID THAT HAPPEN TO YOUR COMMUNITY?
Reply:well... the problem is... a large city turned into a deep lake for about 2 weeks... did that happen during Andrew?

and FEMA helped a lot of people during Andrew with all those things you mentioned... I remember... and they talked about it on the news all the time too...

you would think that people that have had disaster strike them so personally wouldn't be so insensitive to other disaster areas... especially when quite a few people died?

oh well, you're from Fla... that pretty much explains it...

maybe the next hurricane will turn your home into a lake and nobody will care... just like you don't...

MAN... SO MANY PEOPLE WENT TO HELP DURING ANDREW... APPARENTLY THAT WAS A MISTAKE, SINCE NO ONE REMEMBERED... I THINK I'LL STAY ON THE COUCH THE NEXT TIME A HURRICANE KNOCKS ON THE DOOR OF FLORIDA... THIS IS A HUGE JINX FOR YOURSELF...
Reply:The good people or N.O. are not complaining. They are rebuilding and will get it done with or without any help. The crud is complaining and the media is doing their best do dig things out. Of, course anyone is going to be upset when they just lost their home and way of life, if you ask them.

The thing about Katrina is that most government response was really stupid and inept. FEMA just got in the way. Things didn't go right until it was handed over to the National Guard which we had before FEMA. The creation of FEMA was just a political response to previous disasters so the politicians could say that they were doing something. We don't even need FEMA. Just call in the Guard. People are gouing to suffer when disasters like this hit no matter what you do but, the Guard has the logistics experience to get available help there the fastest and most effectively.

Most of the problem stems from the media. They have to magnify conflict and hysteria to get their ratings up so they can sell their ad spots for higher prices. They did not report the political games that the mayor and governor played which resulted in most of the deaths. it was not Bush, this time. They also have dropped the story about the political corruption that caused money targetted for the levees to be spent on other things. They know which side their bread is buttered on.

The media is our biggest enemy now.
Reply:Because it was the worse natural catastrophe to ever hit this country... and a huge and important port city just went under water.
Reply:I totally agree with you.

The whole "relief thing" if blown WAY out of proportion. They Had 3 days warning to evacuate. Yet some of the did not. Who is to blame for that?

They build a city below sea level and build a crappy dam, who is to blame for that?

Sure the damage was worse then in other hurricanes but not THAT huge, to warrant that much coverage, and donation solicitations.
Reply:Huh??? Really, that seems odd to me. Cuz arent u bitchin right now sweety? Plus it was a disaster not just a hurricane. I live in houston so yea I should know. People didnt just loose electricity and have had their homes flooded but it was days before they were even rescued and many of their loved ones died. Iggorant ppl like u are just too stupid and selfish to see beyond things.

Quite whinening like a lil *********....What a F A G
Reply:Well like lil Georgie Porgie said...

Brownie...you did a heck of a job

(Representing our Compassion LESS party)
Reply:Yeah, Governor Blanco didn't declare the place a state of emergency right away, and Ray "what buses?" Nagin wasn't much better. He evacuated himself from the city, then waited until too late to tell everyone to evacuate, and then didn't have a "plan" for dealing with the "difficult to evacuate" folks (poor and elderly, not to mention bedridden and hospitalized). President Bush deployed all kinds of aid (ships and airplanes) but it took time to get down to Louisiana.

Yeah, I watched the news as it was occurring, volunteered with the Red Cross in my city, where many evacuees came... I was amazed at the ridiculous things being flung at Bush. How this was all his fault, because he didn't like black people.

It's also incredible how, here in America, we can't have a natural disaster without blaming a government official. Poo poo happens. And then we deal with it.

At one point, in a conversation with someone, I facetiously said that I was tired of Bush getting all the credit. Katrina was MY fault. I sent it, because I don't like spicy food.

Now, to be fair, Katrina did cause more devastation than Hurricane Andrew. But, also to be fair, the state and local politicians were far more at fault for the ensuing chaos than the federal government was.
Reply:short answer because it runied many lives and killed poor people. i don't blame the president i think he did an great job but any chance us americans can help others lets take it and don't complain about it
Reply:So you're jealous of other hurricane victims. That's pathetic and sad. By the way, Andrew can't even come close to the death and destruction that Katrina caused. There are still people that to this day don't have a home to return. You say you didn't ***** about it but you sure are doing a bunch of bitching and whining on here.

Who other than me believes that we should help OURSELVES not every other nation?

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I believe that America should step back from war and lick our own wounds insted of sucking up to other nations (Clinton) and spending billions on war efforts on conflicts that do not even envolve us? I also believe that we should close our borders to Mexico AND Canada. Don't pull out the race card, jeez. Other nations problems ARE NOT OUR OWN!!! I am open to all comments.

Who other than me believes that we should help OURSELVES not every other nation?
I think we should help ourselves first then other countries. And then only if they ask us. We should not impose our ways of thinking and ideals on others.
Reply:I know of so many chronically ill children who do not have medical insurance. And their parents work full time. We have enough problems right here in this country.
Reply:HEY YOU ****** *******- IF THEY ARE POOR THATS THERE PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DEE DEE DEE FOR PRESIDENT!

PS I REALLY DONT CARE IF YOU REPORT ME BECAUSE I AM AN AMERICAN AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH TCREEDE

PSS YOU DEMOCATS SHOULD BURN IN HELL...IF YOU AREN'T ALL ATHEISTS!
Reply:I'm sorry, but you all have an over inflated sense of what America IS to the rest of the world. Look out, here comes China.
Reply:I agree with the other answerers in that we are interlinked with the world at large thru the very basis of the concepts of what America is and should be and thru the complexities of "protection" and trade. I do wish we'd stay alittle closer to home with all our "saving" though- I don't feel for most American its a lack of moral or social character- its a fix and save your own first thing.
Reply:We are the richest and most powerful nation that has every existed. We all eat at least 3 meals a day and drive a car and live the most comfortable life in the world. We get lazy and sit on the couch and watch tv when we have a day off.

If you had the only house on your block and the only person who ate everyday while your neighbors sat by your property and watched you while they kill each other, would you not have a sense of social justice?
Reply:foreign policy is crucial to our economy and safety and has been forever . America and the world would fall apart without it
Reply:No wonder the US is among the stingiest nations!

You would not help our own nation either, would you?

Don't forget, we always expect something out of it!
Reply:You have a point but at the end of the day we all human beings who inhabit one planet and ultimately share the same basic needs.

The US is the stingiest country in what it gives per what it has. You can look that up yourself though. Closing the borders is not a feasible option as the US has been built up to be this great country people will always want to come here.

However I do believe we should pull out the war and let the Iraqis take control of their own destiny.

In the US there are many oppurtunities for one to make something of themself. In this country you can go as far as you are willing to if you have the drive and ambition.

When there are races of people being slaughtered just because they are a certain race of people we should absolutely stop that. How any decent human being can hear about what happens with genocides and not be disgusted and think, why isnt my country, the great USA defender of all helping them is beyond me.
Reply:Not only war, but humanitarian aid and food etc should all be cut off.
Reply:Well you got one thing right Stephanie, for you and most liberals, this and most "real life" questions are beyond you. ;)

You can always tell who the liberals are when they start throwing emotion into a situation. Unfortunately emotion rarely pays the bills. Stephanie, go back to Starbucks for another round and try not to top of your SUV so I can get some gas after work.

Look, by helping others we ARE helping ourselves. This question isn't even debatable at this point. History has been clear. Though we as Americans are far away from the rest of the world physically we are still connected to every nation on the globe in some way and isolationism doesn't work. For those of you who are confused, crack a book on world war 2 and how this question was handled then. Believe it or not but nobody wanted to fight Hitler even after he had conquered the majority of Europe. You still had lazy Americans saying we should only take care of us. And what!? Leave Hitler to run Europe? That would have been sweet. This issue is not complicated, Saddam had to go. So does North Korea's govt and Iran's. Their day is coming. You cannot have evil dictatorships and theocracy's spreading hate and discontent throughout the world. Guys like Hitler must be dealt with. Evil does not go away. You cannot negotiate with it. You cannot appease it. You cannot threaten it. You can only root it out like a bad tooth. As we are seeing in Iraq, sometimes it isn't easy but it must be done now before things get worse.